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When these proposals were being debated on a paralllel thread, a poster argued the change from the most popular train (the 1720 TPE) to the new Northern 1723 - an extra 15 minute journey time on the timetable - was not so bad because
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In reality the new 17:23 will arrive into Chinley 5...
Well it started on Monday the new 1723 Northern rail sop to Chinley commuters, now the 1720 TPE is no longer calling. Back to Soviet style travel. A very old rattler (someone here will doubtless know the correct term for these units with bus style 5 abreast seating) with no heating - the...
That is incorrect. What was proposed then was indeed that we would lose the 1718 and 1720 and gain a 1645. There was only a vague hope that a new train would be run around 1720.
Whatever the reason, jcollins, they exist to serve people and they are well used. You do not just pull them to make long distance trains faster.
I note you are no longer disputing that Chinley services will be worse.
These changes have all come about to allow a new train at 1814 from Sheffield to Manchester and it will clearly benefit those who will use that. However no calculations as to relative benefit (how many would benefit from Sheffield cf how many would lose out from Manchester) have ever been...
Let's get it straight.
Chinley currently has 2 slow services and 3 fast between 1630 and 1800 (1643, 1718, 1720, 1743, 1748).
With the new timetable there will be 3 slow services and 2 fast services in that time (1643, 1645, 1723, 1743, 1748) with one fewer fast out of the 1700-1800 period...
It is confusing that we have 2 threads covering this topic, (can the moderators merge them?) and I have already posted on the other one (Chinley to lose services....) but I must point out that this information in the Advertiser and much quoted since is wrong - in that the 1643 and 1743 EMT...
Leter from TPE just in.
Note they say calling at Chinley 1723 - they mean leaving Piccadilly at 1723.
Re PSR - what consultation? Can they do this just like that ?
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Thank you for your further email, which I received on 20 July 2011. I am sorry that my colleague X failed to...
Yes we Chinley commuters who have been fighting to protect our services have had this information confirmed. The main changes for us are we lose the fast 1720 and the slow 1718 and gain a slow 1645 and a slow 1723. We therefore lose the most popular service (1720 TPE) at the peak 5-6pm hour...
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