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If you're kidding YorkshireRider... :x

;)

Would I? ;)

Seriously though ive got the information off someone who has seen the menus, i didnt have time to ask too much but she did mention that some of the vegy options will be a jacket potato with whatever filling, the vegy sheppards pie and brie wellington will be there, the only item i recall about meat option was a chicken and mushroom pie with chips.
Bungle they served oven chips before on the at seat dining trains and they were nice enough, the salad are said to be going for winter but will be back in the spring.
The sandwich filling will have a refresh also.
 
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graham43404

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It would have been nicer if they had a meat based shepards pie to go with it as well (for us meat eaters ;)).
They did have some disgusting sounding crayfish effort for meat eaters :lol:

Makes a change for us veggies to have a choice thats nicer than the meat one though.
 

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Will there be a festive menu near Xmas? The staff could wear some tinsel too, if it's good enough for the Swanage Railway, why not East Coast?

You couldn't help but smile when given an excess fare by Mr Tumble.

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Will there be a festive menu near Xmas? The staff could wear some tinsel too, if it's good enough for the Swanage Railway, why not East Coast?

You couldn't help but smile when given an excess fare by Mr Tumble.

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Nice photo, there will be mince pies and mulled wine offered on the run up to xmas, hopefully it wont be chilled like the red wine:roll:;)
 

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I thought the 70 minute rule had been relaxed . . . . .
there is (still) a massive amount of variation between crews, quite apart from any problems with staffing or stocking. Some crews do and some crews don't (and some crews discuss what they'll do before departure and then argue about it on reaching their destination).

Rules? schmules!
(sorry, I must pay more attention to my Yiddish teacher)
. . . . the salad are said to be going for winter but will be back in the spring.
That's an appropriate response to the seasons. I often vascillate at this time of year between making a salad or a soup. So I for one will be happy that the salad disappears for a few months (screw down the balsamic tight). So we can therefore expect to see soup back on the menu during those dark, cold, damp winter nights, can we?

Oh, no. I forgot.
An EC risk assessment declared that soup was an uncontrolled hazard.
That is one 'madness' for which I am unlikely ever to forgive the Company. I've done some very thorough risk assesments in my time, but never quite reached the point of declaring soup to be a hazard - that's DOR for you.

As for Christmas fare, well what do we see here . . .
. . . . there will be mince pies and mulled wine offered on the run up to xmas, hopefully it won't be chilled like the red wine:roll:;)
Ah, yes, Ho, Ho, Ho! The old joke of putting the red wine in the chillers, eh, boys and girls?
Trouble is, the joke doesn't work when the chillers aren't working.
 
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An EC risk assessment declared that soup was an uncontrolled hazard.
To be fair, there was a time when any food served on British trains was an uncontrolled hazard.

Makes you wonder why they didn't crash an unfortunate class 40 into a Mk.3 buffet/restaurant car to demonstrate that even in a worst-case scenario, the fridge will remain tight shut.
 
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Oh, no. I forgot.
An EC risk assessment declared that soup was an uncontrolled hazard.
That is one 'madness' for which I am unlikely ever to forgive the Company. I've done some very thorough risk assesments in my time, but never quite reached the point of declaring soup to be a hazard - that's DOR for you.

As much as i agree with you on this one it was the RMT reps that declared this a safety hazard and put pressure on EC to get rid rather than EC themselves.
 

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To be fair, there was a time when any food served on British trains was an uncontrolled hazard.
But surely not a simple soup?

You know how some things in life are the perfect antidote to a simple problem?
Think of an umbrella when it rains.
Think of a 'thank you' when you pay a bill.
Think of a hug when you're sad.
Think of a stranger helping when you're lost.

Well for me, a walk through a cold, dark, damp hurried London from, say, Chancery Lane to Kings Cross had a perfect antidote. A comfy seat and a bowl of hot soup. But now I'm offered a little plastic tub containing concentrated lumps of cold I-don't know-what, and with a rehearsed smile as if my refusal of the processed crap is unlikely as we pass through Finsbury Park, when all I need to complete my day is soup.

Risk Assessment level what?

As much as i agree with you on this one it was the RMT reps that declared this a safety hazard and put pressure on EC to get rid rather than EC themselves.
(I missed your post as I was typing, YR. Sorry.) I had been aware of that distinction, actually, but I didn't really want too many facts getting in the way of my little rant!!
But seriously, I have seen a quite extraordinary difference in attitude between thos with a Hotel&Catering background and those with a Railway background. It can be quite a shocking distinction for the mere passenger, most apparent with the Scottish crews I've found.
 

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welcoming the new menue with open arms and hope that baked spuds are successfull to the extent that they are retained next menue change..im far more likely to have a filled spud than some processed ready made addative filled tart! lets see how this goes..incidentally, cant wate to try the shepherds pie!
 

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Indeed I also agree about the jacket potato that sounds much more inviting than say a beetroot risotto and will probably look more inviting as well!

I was once on a service southbound from Darlo and a couple of ladies next to me order the beetroot and before there's was served another few went by to people that had ordered earlier. The looks on their faces were an absolute picture! It even prompted the person sat opposite them to tell them that it "tasted better than it looked". Which to be honest wasn't saying much...
 

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The Shepherds Pie looks and tastes like it has meat in it!

Chicken Pie & Chips may only be Evening Meal services from Kings Cross.

The baked potatoes have at least 2 meat fillings, one is Chilli the other Tikka and I think they rotate.
 

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u o, another curry mistake. They clearly havent learned but, as I assume they will offer a potato with a vedgy filling e.g tuna mayo, cheez etc then it wil be fine! One thing though, hoping they dont put there foot in it and offer baked beans with them as questions wil then be asked about lack of them at breakfast again.

Gotta admit im feeling a bit smug as have constantly suggested a filled potato in my feedback!
 

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As much as i agree with you on this one it was the RMT reps that declared this a safety hazard and put pressure on EC to get rid rather than EC themselves.

I wonder how the LMS and LNER risk assessed wooden coaches , gas lighting and cooking on solid fuel stoves (paraffin stoves on the 2 Metropolitan line Pullman vehicles which worked through to Liverpool St via the Circle Line !)

Different era , different standards....
 

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Is there any reason why the china plates/glasses are not used at weekends? they also seem to use the module trolleys instead of the display ones. I personally like the new offer but I think a few southbound evening meal services wouldn't go amiss along with a better weekend offer.
 

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The FC menu's been relaunched
Beetroot risotto? That's abolished!
On cottage pies and potatoes baked
Elaine's reputation has been staked
Let's hope grumblings will be staunched!

(just for old time's sake...)
 
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Is there any reason why the china plates/glasses are not used at weekends? they also seem to use the module trolleys instead of the display ones. I personally like the new offer but I think a few southbound evening meal services wouldn't go amiss along with a better weekend offer.

Everything goes off board to be washed now and I believe its in the contract that RG only have to replace and wash the lay up (cups and teaspoons) carts on a weekend and bank hols. I assume that allows them to have less staff on a weekend.
Ive not heard anything about the evening meal offer southbound but if they were to start that it would have to be when there is a roster change, which will be the same time as the timetable change in December.
 

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think if I remember correctly my last semi constructive rant to customer relations suggested a dinner trial on a handfull of services - the 17.30 from EDB which carried a restaurant for years and maybe an earlier service too pluss a cupple from leeds. Seeing as the great fear of trying things seams to be vanishing this may happen? Lets hope?
 

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think if I remember correctly my last semi constructive rant to customer relations suggested a dinner trial on a handfull of services - the 17.30 from EDB which carried a restaurant for years and maybe an earlier service too pluss a cupple from leeds. Seeing as the great fear of trying things seams to be vanishing this may happen? Lets hope?

Similar rants from me too. Breakfast and Northbound evening meals are fine.

We need a MEAL servive on the 1630, 1700 and 1730 from Edinburgh. this will allow those of us in the North of England to eat onthe way south at the end of a busy working day. Don't use Leeds services very often, so won't comment there.

Which will triumph Optimism or Realism? :shock:
 

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We need a MEAL servive on the 1630, 1700 and 1730 from Edinburgh. this will allow those of us in the North of England to eat onthe way south at the end of a busy working day. Don't use Leeds services very often, so won't comment there.

When I last though about this I came up with all Northbounds from Kings Cross between 16:30 and 19:00 to offer the evening meal along with following from Edinburgh: 16:30 (as far as York), 17:00 and 17:30 (as far as Newcastle) as well as the 16:25 and 17:25 from Newcastle and the 16:45, 17:15 and 17:45 from Leeds. I think that would be just about right personally (though perhaps a bit too much from Leeds, I'm sure Yorkshirerider could comment on just how many people actually want something on the Leeds services southbound).
 

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Second go at the new EC 1st this weekend, to York and back. Very good timing that we had a trip planned and found there was another £25 offer on when booking. To be honest, quite impressed this time around. Much better than the Virgin weekend offering. The sandwiches were pre-packed this time around which I actually prefer, they can give them out a lot quicker than when they're picking them off the trolley with tongs and potentially not giving you all four. Felt like I'd had a good lunch with the crisps/shortbread too.
 

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Trying to decide which will be best 1st advance for when I go home for Xmas on Dec 23rd. I work on Euston Rd, ticket prices are nearly the same.
EUS-MAN-HUD @1720, includes 1st class lounge and is an evening meal service
KGX-LDS-HUD @1703, no first class lounge and is not an evening service. It's about £6 cheaper.
Either way I'm happy to avoid the ram of either service that will be standard class the night before Christmas Eve.

Let me know your thoughts.
 

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As marks87 says if you're wanting to eat travel with Virgin. If on the other hand you're not bothered then I'd take EC simply because I'd rather travel on a IC225 than a 390.
 

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Thanks for the input. I can deal without a full evening meal, have they gotten any less stingy with the drinks?
 

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If you choose EC you can gain access to the FC lounge by purchasing a supplement ticket for £5.
 

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no, stil quite strict on the drinks plus far
more commuters on your KGX train. For 6 quid id go virgin
 

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no, stil quite strict on the drinks plus far
more commuters on your KGX train. For 6 quid id go virgin

Although I'm biased, I agree for an extra £6 it's surely worth it. Bear on mind both services are likely to be very busy even in First...
 

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