Amos390
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Hi Mark, I’m only really interested in the 3J84 Toton circuit if that’s OK for you to check.Which specific train(s) are you interested in? (I have a record of all the 2025 start dates for each diagram)
MARK
TIA,
Amos
Hi Mark, I’m only really interested in the 3J84 Toton circuit if that’s OK for you to check.Which specific train(s) are you interested in? (I have a record of all the 2025 start dates for each diagram)
MARK
3J51 starts 1st October.Hi Mark. I'm mostly interested about the Teesside and North Yorkshire diagrams.
Hi Mark, I’m only really interested in the 3J84 Toton circuit if that’s OK for you to check.
Seems a bit odd to be fitting three locos that are in the batch (66701-722) that were being talked about for going off lease as the 99s come in.Is it still the plan for 66708, 709 & 710 to get tripcocks for the Chiltern circuit? Only concerned as 708 hasn't been out in months, would swapping it for 711 be more likely?
Perhaps it may be of benefit for Colas to have access to a pool of tripcock fitted locomotives in the futureSeems a bit odd to be fitting three locos that are in the batch (66701-722) that were being talked about for going off lease as the 99s come in.
Which locos were on this? Isn’t a third loco usually required as a spare too?The 70-hauled Carstairs train is having its 'shakedown run' this evening:
3S93 - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:K03587/2026-09-10/detailed
Which locos were on this? Isn’t a third loco usually required as a spare too?
Confirmed 70810 and 70815 operating that one, wondering if it might get caught up in the disruption over Beattock on the way back with the points failure up there70810 & 70815 have been at Carstairs so should be these 2. Unless anyone can confirm tonight I’ll confirm at work in morning
Dan
I incorrectly said 708. The three are 66709 710 and 711. All should now be fitted. I drove 709 3 weeks ago and it had been fitted outIs it still the plan for 66708, 709 & 710 to get tripcocks for the Chiltern circuit? Only concerned as 708 hasn't been out in months, would swapping it for 711 be more likely?
I'm sure if GB were planning on selling 709 710 and 711 that they wouldn't have selected those for tripcock fitting.Seems a bit odd to be fitting three locos that are in the batch (66701-722) that were being talked about for going off lease as the 99s come in.
GBRf cannot sell them as they don't own them.I'm sure if GB were planning on selling 709 710 and 711 that they wouldn't have selected those for tripcock fitting.
Confirmed by TOPSCarstairs RHTT expected to start tomorrow (COLAS 70s) (Monday 14th September)
3S93
Tonbridge RHTTs expected to start this week
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3W74 - the and almost always the first LH RHTT to kick off is running today with 73s - https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:H49514/2026-09-14/detailed
No that is a class 153 VIU test train
Usually the first week in October.When is the North Wales RHTT likely to start please?
Unlikely, I don’t believe any RHTT wagons are at Toton yet.Seen that this weekends Toton runs have been VAR altered, could this indicate that they intend on running this weekend?
Pretty sure a Toton north yard to bescot a few weeks ago had some on, i have noticed alot of the RHTT wagons are being taken on alot of the normal engineering paths rather than specific STPsUnlikely, I don’t believe any RHTT wagons are at Toton yet.
Thank you.Usually the first week in October.
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Unlikely, I don’t believe any RHTT wagons are at Toton yet.
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For reference, 3W74 is:
73213, 9310002-9 9310004-5, 73109
| Depot | Route | Headcodes | Operator | Type | Locos | Status | Start Date | Locos | As of | Notes | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Tonbridge | Kent | 3W74/3W75 | GBRF | LH | 73s | STARTED | 14-Sep | * | * | * | * | 14-Sep | *GBED Pool of 73s, see below. 3W75 not currently operating |
2 | Tonbridge | Southern | 3W90 | GBRF | LH | 73s | STARTED | 30-Sep | As | Above | - | - | - | |
3 | Swindon | GWML | 3J41-44 | GBRF | LH | 68s | STARTED | 25-Sep | 68014 | 68015 | - | - | 25-Sep | |
4 | Taunton Fairwater | Devon & Cornwall | 3S11-13 | GBRF | LH | 57s | STARTED | 28-Sep | 57305 | 57306 | 57310 | - | 25-Sep | Locos listed are expected |
5 | Peterborough | ECML (South) | 3J30-39 | GBRF | LH | 69s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 69008 | 69010 | 69013 | 69015 | 01-Oct | |
6 | Peterborough | Lincolnshire | 3J41-44 | GBRF | LH | 69s | STARTED | 01-Oct | As | Above | - | - | - | |
7 | York | South Yorkshire & Humber | 3S11-15 | COLAS | LH | 66s | STARTED | 29-Sep | 66847 | 66848 | - | - | 29-Sep | |
8 | Carlisle | Teesside | 3J77-3J80/3S94 | COLAS | LH | 56s | STARTED | 28-Sep | 56078 | 56105 | - | - | 28-Sep | |
9 | Horsham | Sussex | 3S91-93 | BALFOUR BEATTY | MPV | - | STARTED | 14-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Horsham MPV Pool |
10 | Kings Norton | WCML (South) & Watford DC | 3J01-12/3S01 | GBRF | LH | 66s | STARTED | 28-Sep | 66711 | 66791 | - | - | 28-Sep | |
11 | York | Scarborough & Bridlington | 3J51-3J52 | COLAS | LH | 37s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 37057 | 37219 | 37254 | - | 28-Sep | |
12 | York | Aire Valley | 3S20-26 | COLAS | LH | Hired in FL 66s | STARTED | 28-Sep | 66551 | 66553 | - | - | 29-Sep | |
13 | Swindon | Welsh Valleys & Severnside | 3S59 | COLAS | LH | Hired in FL 66s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 66544 | 66549 | - | - | 01-Oct | |
14 | Swindon | Cotswolds | 3S31/3S32 | COLAS | LH | 67s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 67023 | 67027 | - | - | 01-Oct | |
15 | Totton | SWML (West) | 3S81/3S82 | BALFOUR BEATTY | MPV | - | STARTED | 15-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Totton MPV Pool |
16 | Effingham | SWML (East) | 3S83-88 | BALFOUR BEATTY | MPV | - | STARTED | 15-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Effingham MPV Pool |
17 | Tonbridge | Southeastern | 3S71-78 | BALFOUR BEATTY | MPV | - | STARTED | 14-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Tonbridge MPV Pool |
18 | Kings Norton | West Midlands | 3S02/3S03 | BALFOUR BEATTY | MPV | - | STARTED | 30-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Kings Norton MPV Pool |
19 | Shrewsbury | North Wales | 3S71 | COLAS | LH | 97/3 & 56s | STARTED | 28-Sep | 56090 | 56113 | 97302 | 97304 | 28-Sep | 97s used on RETB sections |
20 | Kings Norton | Chilterns | 3J04-3J11 | GBRF | LH | 66s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 66710 | 66711 | - | - | 01-Oct | Tripcock only locos 66709-711 |
21 | Toton | East Midlands | 3J88/3J84 | GBRF | LH | 66s | STARTED | 30-Sep | 66705 | 66723 | 66754 | 66778 | 01-Oct | |
22 | Toton | MML | 3J91/3J93 | GBRF | LH | 66s | STARTED | 01-Oct | As | Above | - | - | - | |
23 | Stowmarket | Cambridgeshire | 3S50 | GBRF | LH | 66s | NOT STARTED | 66301 | 66717 | 66764 | 66765 | - | Expected Locos Listed | |
24 | Stowmarket | GEML (East) | 3S30 | GBRF | LH | 66s | NOT STARTED | As | Above | - | - | - | ||
25 | Carlisle | Cumbria | 3J11 | COLAS | LH | 70s | STARTED | 25-Sep | 70801 | 70816 | - | - | 25-Sep | |
26 | Stowmarket | Norfolk & Suffolk | 3S01/3S65 | GBRF | LH | 66s | NOT STARTED | See | Circuit | 23 | - | - | ||
27 | Stowmarket | GEML | 3S60/3S10 | GBRF | LH | 66s | NOT STARTED | As | Above | - | - | - | ||
28 | Broxbourne | Essex Thameside | 3S70/3S40 | GBRF | LH | 66s | STARTED | 01-Oct | 66687 | 66712 | 66734 | 66735 | 02-Oct | |
29 | Broxbourne | West Anglia & North London | 3S81/3S20 | GBRF | LH | 66s | NOT STARTED | As | Above | - | - | - | ||
30 | Wigan | Liverpool Area | 3S08/07 | GBRF | MPV | - | STARTED | - | - | - | - | - | Wigan MPV Pool | |
31 | Wigan | North West | 3S50-3S92 | GBRF | MPV | - | STARTED | 18-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Wigan MPV Pool |
32 | Inverness | Aberdeenshire | 3S97 | GBRF | LH | 99s | OPERATING DAILY | 23-Sep | 99006 | 99008 | 99009 | 99013 | 02-Oct | |
33 | Inverness | Highland Main Line | 3S95 | GBRF | LH | 99s | OPERATING DAILY | 28-Sep | As | Above | - | - | - | |
34 | Mossend | West Highland Line | 3S96 | GBRF | MPV | - | NOT OPERATING | - | - | - | - | - | - | No WTT in place for 2026 |
35 | Bridgeton | Suburban Scotland | 3S91-92/94/98 | GBRF | MPV | - | STARTED | 14-Sep | - | - | - | - | - | Bridgeton MPV Pool |
36 | Carstairs | Central Scotland | 3S93 | COLAS | LH | 70s | OPERATING DAILY | 14-Sep | 70810 | 70815 | - | - | 28-Sep | |
37 | Port Talbot | West Wales | 3S61/3S62 | COLAS | LH | 66s | STARTED | 24-Sep | 66846 | 66850 | - | - | 28-Sep |
| Depot | MPV | End 1 | End 2 | |
| Wigan | MPV01 | DR98901 | DR98951 | |
| Wigan | MPV02 | DR98902 | DR98952 | |
| Wigan | MPV03 | DR98903 | DR98953 | |
| Wigan | MPV04 | DR98904 | DR98954 | |
| Kings Norton | MPV05 | DR98905 | DR98955 | |
| Bridgeton | MPV06 | DR98906 | DR98956 | |
| Bridgeton | MPV07 | DR98907 | DR98957 | |
| Kings Norton | MPV08 | DR98908 | DR98958 | |
| Kings Norton | MPV09 | DR98909 | DR98959 | |
| Bridgeton | MPV10 | DR98910 | DR98960 | |
| Bridgeton | MPV11 | DR98911 | DR98961 | |
| Wigan | MPV12 | DR98912 | DR98962 | |
| Effingham | MPV13 | DR98913 | DR98963 | |
| Effingham | MPV14 | DR98914 | DR98964 | |
| Totton | MPV15 | DR98915 | DR98965 | |
| Horsham | MPV16 | DR98916 | DR98966 | |
| Bridgeton | MPV17 | DR98917 | DR98967 | |
| Wigan | MPV18 | DR98918 | DR98968 | |
| Tonbridge | MPV19 | DR98919 | DR98969 | |
| Effingham | MPV20 | DR98920 | DR98970 | |
| Horsham | MPV21 | DR98921 | DR98971 | |
| Effingham | MPV22 | DR98922 | DR98972 | |
| Effingham | MPV23 | DR98923 | DR98973 | CRTL ALT DELEAF |
| Totton | MPV24 | DR98924 | DR98974 | |
| Tonbridge | MPV25 | DR98925 | DR98975 | |
| Effingham | MPV26 | DR98926 | DR98976 | |
| Effingham | MPV27 | DR98927 | DR98977 | |
| Tonbridge | MPV28 | DR98928 | DR98978 | |
| Horsham | MPV29 | DR98929 | DR98979 | |
| Tonbridge | MPV30 | DR98930 | DR98980 | |
| Horsham | MPV31 | DR98931 | DR98981 | |
| Wigan | MPV32 | DR98932 | DR98982 |
| Number | Livery |
| 73109 | GBRf Blue and Orange |
| 73107 | GBRf Blue and Orange |
| 73119 | Civil Engineers Yellow and Grey |
| 73128 | Network SouthEast |
| 73136 | GBRf Blue and Orange |
| 73141 | Intercity Large Logo |
| 73201 | BR Blue with Yellow Ends |
| 73202 | Southern Rail |
| 73212 | GBRf Blue and Orange |
| 73213 | GBRf Blue and Orange |