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National Express Coaches Discussion

CB Root

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With immediate effect, National Express Coachcards have doubled in price. This was in the latest agent bulletin which I can't link to as it's password protected.
Public websites have been updated.

Now £30
Wow, that's a bummer !

I can justify £18 for this year's planned and actual journeys but 2027 at £33 will be a wash at best.

Will need to have a think towards the end of the year to see if it makes financial sense from January (needing gross fares of £100 to break even).

Might even give Flixbus a go :) !
 
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gray1404

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Had a journey with National Express bank holiday weekend and booked disability assistance but it failed to materialise. The reserved seat on board was not honoured (no fee was paid for this as their Assisted Travel Team reserved it).

Is it worth raising this with them? What would be a resolution? Ask for a refund of the fare (under £5) or just feedback? (Or just leave it).

Thoughts welcome.....
 

GusB

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Had a journey with National Express bank holiday weekend and booked disability assistance but it failed to materialise. The reserved seat on board was not honoured (no fee was paid for this as their Assisted Travel Team reserved it).

Is it worth raising this with them? What would be a resolution? Ask for a refund of the fare (under £5) or just feedback? (Or just leave it).

Thoughts welcome.....
I don't know what, if anything, will happen if you raise the issue; it's certain that nothing will happen if you don't!

Where did you board, and were National Express staff present at the time? The website makes it clear that:
  • We can only offer assistance in the station or at a stop where we have National Express staff and during the hours we have staff on-site. If you need assistance in the station or at a stop, just let us know by contacting our Assisted Travel Team. We will then let you know if the station/stop you will be using is staffed. If it is, we will do all we can to make sure that a member/s of our team are there when you get on or off your coach (during the advertised opening hours). We will make reasonable efforts to provide this assistance in a prompt and timely manner. To download or view a full list of facilities available to customers at our stations/stops, please see our Facilities Directory
Link: https://www.nationalexpress.com/en/help/accessibility

However, it also says this:
  • Our team and drivers are expected to:
    • Recognise and offer reasonable assistance, wherever possible or on request, to our disabled customers and those customers with any accessibility requirements;
    • Be flexible, polite and respectful in their response to requests for assistance;
    • Respond to specific requests from our Assisted Travel Team, ensuring that particular/specified requirements are met;
    • Whenever possible, carry disabled customers’ luggage (or luggage belonging to customers with reduced mobility) to/from the departure/pickup point (maximum weight 20kg).
So, if you had luggage below 20kg the driver should have helped.

But:
  • Our drivers and teams are unable to dismantle or reassemble mobility scooters or wheelchairs.
 

Mikw

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I have received emails from National Express regarding a couple of my upcoming journeys being retimed.
The original journeys have been removed from the booking engine
 

dmncf

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I have received emails from National Express regarding a couple of my upcoming journeys being retimed.
The original journeys have been removed from the booking engine
National Express are the new FlixBus! :D
 

JJM22

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I have received emails from National Express regarding a couple of my upcoming journeys being retimed.
The original journeys have been removed from the booking engine
There’s quite a lot that have been retimed/rerouted.

For example, The Monday to Thursday timetable for the 440 service has been curtailed by a significant amount. Such as only having three departures from Derby in the morning, and nothing for the remainder of the day.
 

tram21

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There’s quite a lot that have been retimed/rerouted.

For example, The Monday to Thursday timetable for the 440 service has been curtailed by a significant amount. Such as only having three departures from Derby in the morning, and nothing for the remainder of the day.
Does anyone have a full list of all the changes & when they're from?
 

MotCO

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For example, The Monday to Thursday timetable for the 440 service has been curtailed by a significant amamount.
Does this leave contractors in the lurch with more drivers and coaches than they know what to do with? How much notice does Nat Exp have to give its contractors?
 

JJM22

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Does this leave contractors in the lurch with more drivers and coaches than they know what to do with? How much notice does Nat Exp have to give its contractors?
Personally as a driver, we were informed of these changes yesterday, to take effect on Monday 15th June. Only three days in advance.

It is impacting all of my colleagues with drastic rota changes at incredibly short notice.
 

yorksrob

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The 00:30 Leeds to Wakefield has disappeared again as well. This leaves no public transport between the large urban areas of Leeds and Wakefield from about 23:45 onwards (when the last 189 bus leaves).
 

yorksrob

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This all sounds like floundering at the onslaught of Flix. The thing is, FlixMobility has never lost in any coach market it has attempted to enter...

Nat Express always struck me as having a well priced offer. What does Flix have that they don't ?
 

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Nat Express always struck me as having a well priced offer. What does Flix have that they don't ?

One thing they have, like Uber, is global reach, so tourists use them by default. I think they've also got a younger feeling brand like Megabus but are better at competing than Stagecoach were.
 

yorksrob

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One thing they have, like Uber, is global reach, so tourists use them by default. I think they've also got a younger feeling brand like Megabus but are better at competing than Stagecoach were.

By "global brand" I guess that means another multi-national ruining our balance of payments deficit.

I haven't seen them at the coach stations though, so goodness knows where they actually pick up.
 

nick291

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By "global brand" I guess that means another multi-national ruining our balance of payments deficit.

I haven't seen them at the coach stations though, so goodness knows where they actually pick up.
They use some coach stations, but it's mainly on street pickup/dropoff like Megabus were.
 

James H

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National Express's UK coach operations are effectively overseen by Mobico's Spanish element anyway
 

yorksrob

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I prefer National express but there has been an extension in seat reservations, ticket changes of late.

They've chosen to absent themselves from the service I need. (That doesn't excuse WY Metro from failing to do their job more generally.
 

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They've chosen to absent themselves from the service I need. (That doesn't excuse WY Metro from failing to do their job more generally.
Metro has limited resources.
2345 is one of the latest departures from Leeds to anywhere.
 

markymark2000

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This all sounds like floundering at the onslaught of Flix. The thing is, FlixMobility has never lost in any coach market it has attempted to enter...
National Express has been on their way out for a while, Flixbus has just come in and held the door open to help them move out (so to speak)
 

M60lad

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Not sure if anyone can answer this but are Selwyns short of National Express Coaches at the moment? I ask as for the past couple of weeks I've been seeing standard Selwyns liveried vehicles (usually a Tourismo) on 170 Liverpool-Leeds via Manchester service.
 

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