Agreed. It’s no heavyweight, but often the only outlet in town beyond the supermarket range.Smugs have never been a serious bookseller
Agreed. It’s no heavyweight, but often the only outlet in town beyond the supermarket range.Smugs have never been a serious bookseller
On my high street there is a Waterstones so books are covered but no Rymans or Boyes, there might be The Works but it wouldn't be a first choice for stationery, but is OK for books and crafting.I think you over-estimate the strength of their position. Amazon is their main competitor, and then in this quite ordinary town stationery can be purchased in person from Rymans, The Range, Home Bargains, The Works, Boyes, B&M, and the supermarkets.
They're like Woolworths. They sell a lot of things not terribly well, and not in large quantities. Their stores aren't inviting, and they can't make enough money to justify tarting them up, meaning they're stuck in a decline loop. And it won't be long before the Post Office counters aren't getting the volumes of business to justify their existence as postage can be bought online (I'm already thinking "should I buy some labels to print postage with" rather than printing and cutting A4 sheets) and collected from the door or more convenient stores.
That's a fair question about the high street, but I'm really not sure that TG Jones is a real bellwether for it. The reality is that the importance of their market has shrunk, with so much being possible to do online that the demand for what they sell is shrinking rapidly. Perhaps the surprise should be that they have survived when so many newsagents have gone under.On my high street there is a Waterstones so books are covered but no Rymans or Boyes, there might be The Works but it wouldn't be a first choice for stationery, but is OK for books and crafting.
The Range, Home Bargains and B&M are all on retail parks not the high street, so would need to decide whether to drive there or go up to the high street.
I think TG Jones could have a place on the high street if they fix the presentation of the stores and go back to being primarily stationery, books and some toys, plus magazines. Remove a lot of the confectionery etc and get the core business right.
But the overall point from your post is more do people want the high street to survive at all? We could focus on driving to the retail park store and supermarkets, getting other stuff delivered. But people can't complain "there is nothing to buy on the high street" when driving to the retail parks to shop. Maybe people have decided they don't need a physical store for these products now, but that will just lead to more empty shops...
On my high street there is a Waterstones so books are covered but no Rymans or Boyes, there might be The Works but it wouldn't be a first choice for stationery, but is OK for books and crafting.
The Range, Home Bargains and B&M are all on retail parks not the high street, so would need to decide whether to drive there or go up to the high street.
I think TG Jones could have a place on the high street if they fix the presentation of the stores and go back to being primarily stationery, books and some toys, plus magazines. Remove a lot of the confectionery etc and get the core business right.
They’ve refurbished the store in Leeds and it’s now bright and modern, they’ve opened out the windows so you can see in rather than them being full of posters and general clutter. Much brighter than it was in the later years under WHSmith. I don’t know if they’ve done any more.On my high street there is a Waterstones so books are covered but no Rymans or Boyes, there might be The Works but it wouldn't be a first choice for stationery, but is OK for books and crafting.
The Range, Home Bargains and B&M are all on retail parks not the high street, so would need to decide whether to drive there or go up to the high street.
I think TG Jones could have a place on the high street if they fix the presentation of the stores and go back to being primarily stationery, books and some toys, plus magazines. Remove a lot of the confectionery etc and get the core business right.
it will come out the venture capital owners will have loaded it with depth as loans to them and then let it go bust. that's why they bought it.In my local TG Jones I have noticed zero changes over the last year. If you take over a failing business and make no changes then is it really surprising that they're still failing a year later?
It's amazing that WH Smith found anyone to buy the stores in the first place and I don't have much confidence for the future.
Strange to remember that within living memory Smith's was seen as a national treasure retailer.it will come out the venture capital owners will have loaded it with depth as loans to them and then let it go bust. that's why they bought it.
Part of their problem is the quality of the products! We purchased 2 x 28 piece sets in Jan 2012 and we've managed to chip 1 plate ever so slightly in that time.Denby have appointed administrators.
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British ceramics firm Denby to appoint administrators
The famous company said rising costs had "squeezed the business financially".www.bbc.co.uk
Is that good or bad ?.Part of their problem is the quality of the products! We purchased 2 x 28 piece sets in Jan 2012 and we've managed to chip 1 plate ever so slightly in that time.
Is that good or bad ?.
In my household there is one who is, shall we say clumsy.
Now that is a shame. I wonder if this is just a cost of living consequence. Too expensive for many at the moment, but not quite premium enough for those with more cash on the hip who may go for say Wedgwood.Denby have appointed administrators.
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British ceramics firm Denby to appoint administrators
The famous company said rising costs had "squeezed the business financially".www.bbc.co.uk
My deceased Mother's Denby set I have saved. It was, from my adolescence, the main in use set thus keeping her very best (Wedgewood iirc) for very restricted use.Good. My 8 place setting Denby set is well into its third decade, and none of the 60 or so items have a mark on them. Sturdy stuff. (although I’ve never used the egg cups!)
Maybe so. In my book Denby is fairly hard wearing and a not over the top style. Probably tougher than the up market alternatives.Now that is a shame. I wonder if this is just a cost of living consequence. Too expensive for many at the moment, but not quite premium enough for those with more cash on the hip who may go for say Wedgwood.
Probably a sign of the times and also is having decent crockery (and certainly a seperate "for best" set) nowadays restricted to a small demographic? I'm 40, grew up in Salford, my parents never had expensive crockery (although my Mother did collect an expensive brand as mere decorative pieces, Royal Doulton? I'd have ask her) and now live in a small flat, with a missus and a 1 year old child and frankly don't have the space for a "for best" set even if we wanted one... I'm certainly not the whole but i'll bet there are a huge amount of folk similar though...My deceased Mother's Denby set I have saved. It was, from my adolescence, the main in use set thus keeping her very best (Wedgewood iirc) for very restricted use.
Maybe so. In my book Denby is fairly hard wearing and a not over the top style. Probably tougher than the up market alternatives.
I notice a lot of people buying the plates that seem to be made of white glass from IKEA and also seen in high street pound-ish shops. Perhaps that is the competition ?.
Erm, have you seen how much the space given to crockery has shrunk?Now that is a shame. I wonder if this is just a cost of living consequence. Too expensive for many at the moment, but not quite premium enough for those with more cash on the hip who may go for say Wedgwood.
I suppose some of it is down to age group. Young families won't have the space or spare money for a "best set". I think my Mothers best set came from her parents when they passed away - by then her children (me etc) had flown the nest and so there was more space. Now I have them its a bit of a space challenge, I would not buy them now but I will not throw them away. I did send my student era crockery to the Charity shop. So although I value Denby I probably am not in the market to buy any more.Probably a sign of the times and also is having decent crockery (and certainly a seperate "for best" set) nowadays restricted to a small demographic? I'm 40, grew up in Salford, my parents never had expensive crockery (although my Mother did collect an expensive brand as mere decorative pieces, Royal Doulton? I'd have ask her) and now live in a small flat, with a missus and a 1 year old child and frankly don't have the space for a "for best" set even if we wanted one... I'm certainly not the whole but i'll bet there are a huge amount of folk similar though...
To me that merely reinforces my theory.Erm, have you seen how much the space given to crockery has shrunk?
Back in 1997, I remember going round and doing our wedding list, and the china and glassware occupied a large floor area. Visiting the same store recently, it had shrunk to less than half the area and there was very little fine china to be found.
Denby have done relatively well compared to others - including Wedgwood Waterford.
I think for many people "best china" is an obsolete concept. Even families of very modest means used to have them for when guests visited, but I really think that's gone the way of the dodo; I guess some middle class (whatever that means these days) people still have dinner party sets etc. but that's a much smaller market.I suppose some of it is down to age group. Young families won't have the space or spare money for a "best set". I think my Mothers best set came from her parents when they passed away - by then her children (me etc) had flown the nest and so there was more space. Now I have them its a bit of a space challenge, I would not buy them now but I will not throw them away. I did send my student era crockery to the Charity shop. So although I value Denby I probably am not in the market to buy any more.
So I think that is the problem for Denby.
Which is also why Wedgwood etc. are struggling.To me that merely reinforces my theory.
In a smaller selling space, the 'average person' going to buy some crockery is in 2026 likely to go for something low end but with a quality feel. People with a lot of cash to spend looking for a set to last 30 years can afford something like Wedgwood. In this smaller selling area, Deby is neither affordable to tens of millions of people in the UK today, nor premium enough for those with lots of disposable cash to splash on an expensive dining set. Denby want around £350+ for a set, but you can get pretty nice looking sets from John Lewis for £80.
Similar for our cutlery canteen. It was only stainless steel, not silver, but pricey nonetheless. I think my mum still technically has it in a cupboard somewhere, but it was basically brought out for Christmas dinner and put back away again. I can't see the bother in buying one now.I think for many people "best china" is an obsolete concept. Even families of very modest means used to have them for when guests visited, but I really think that's gone the way of the dodo; I guess some middle class (whatever that means these days) people still have dinner party sets etc. but that's a much smaller market.
My mother had several good sets despite us being a family of pretty humble working class origins (transiting to middle class); she gave one set to me when I set up home, it sat in a cupboard for 30 years, and I finally gave it (unused) to charity a couple of years ago.
Wedgwood has been back to profitability for a few years now. I think Fiskars are quite happy they bought it!Which is also why Wedgwood etc. are struggling.
Following significant cutbacks and offshoring of most productionWedgwood has been back to profitability for a few years now. I think Fiskars are quite happy they bought it!
Whether Denby can achieve the same, I'm not convinced.
I mean I have just had pizza for 4 meals on the trot, so kinda relevant! There was a mix up with the order and we got too much pizza. Dishwasher hasn't been on in days!Another thing of course is the fall in crockery use. Just eating the food out of the disposable containers it was delivered in.......
The restructuring might not be anymore sophisticated than TJ Jones checking which leases are coming up for a break point and if the store isn't making a profit it gets chopped.
....and if you get a vape shop, watch out for fire breaking out!I’m not sure why people get so excited about the prospect of legacy retailers closing down
If we’ve learnt anything over the last few years, it’s that they won’t be replaced by anything better. So many Wilko & Debenhams stores up and down the country are still empty eyesores. You might get a vape shop or some community art installation at best.
Interestingly the stores that have yet to be rebranded were trading betterI'd be interested to know how many TJ Jones stores actually make a profit, with the exception of some self service tills, the stores haven't changed since the 90s, they usually occupy prime retail space but always seem void of customers...
Some branches now have a 'Toys R Us' concession, but even these charge more than other comparable places.