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NorthClyde320

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All changes now on Andy Preece website.
Thanks, the last time I looked it hadn't been updated hence why i mentioned confirmation or rumours. Amazed at the 211 as North Lodge is already served by an SPT service, I assume it will be the same route as the 202 as Calderbank and Cairnhill schemes are bad for parked cars so a small bus would be needed (ex Cornwall stock?), I agree operating via Chapelhall would maybe have made more sense but then that would be competing with another operator unconnected to any of this.
The 291/293 I do like the look of and reminds me a bit of the old Coakley 153/155 circular.
Interesting times ahead
 
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The odd situation is Chaplehall is 6X the size of Calderbank, yet it's calderbank that has the better bus service. Maybe once the new East Airdrie Link Road and Monklands Hospital is built something might change.
 

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One of the Solo SRs is on the 3 today, and no, it’s not a tracking error. (Currently on it as I write this).

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Metal Mickey

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The odd situation is Chaplehall is 6X the size of Calderbank, yet it's calderbank that has the better bus service. Maybe once the new East Airdrie Link Road and Monklands Hospital is built something might change.
Hopefully the CityLink 902 will eventually have a frequency increase.
 

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I’m assuming the new 209 will be very like Craig’s of Cumbernauld service (ie evenings only)?
I'm guessing the new 209 will be every 30 mins Mon-Sat daytime to match the JMB 5 (the Craig's 209 was subsidised and withdrawn by SPT last year), with the 242 being reduced from 20 to 30 mins but combined with the 209 between Motherwell and New Stevenson.
 

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I'm guessing the new 209 will be every 30 mins Mon-Sat daytime to match the JMB 5 (the Craig's 209 was subsidised and withdrawn by SPT last year), with the 242 being reduced from 20 to 30 mins but combined with the 209 between Motherwell and New Stevenson.
And the new 211 as well, assume it will run through Jerviston. Unless they plan one of the services to run via Carfin Street to New Stevenson
 

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Now that the MMCs and Optare Solos have moved to Glasgow, will the solos be pushed into service without being repainted? They could even do what Stagecoach Carlisle did with an ex Yorkshire Gold MMC where they just debranded it but kept it in gold
 

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Now that the MMCs and Optare Solos have moved to Glasgow, will the solos be pushed into service without being repainted?
Going by what happened with the first batch of Solos, the Kernow arrivals will most likely be repainted before entering service, not because it's a requirement for them to be painted, but because they are all going to need a visit to the RRC anyway to have vaults and screens fitted.

It took a good couple of months for the first batch of Solos to enter service based on these steps, so you can expect the same again for this batch as well. The MMCs I imagine will get priority.
 

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Going by what happened with the first batch of Solos, the Kernow arrivals will most likely be repainted before entering service, not because it's a requirement for them to be painted, but because they are all going to need a visit to the RRC anyway to have vaults and screens fitted.

It took a good couple of months for the first batch of Solos to enter service based on these steps, so you can expect the same again for this batch as well. The MMCs I imagine will get priority.
That’s a bit disappointing to hear as i would of liked to photograph the GWR and Ex Midland Bluebird Solo as they’re unique. But i appreciate your answer anyway. Yes i think the MMCs will get priority as they’re needed for the services starting in April
 

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I’d hope the buses are repainted and re-trimmed before entering service. Glasgow are normally good at prepping before entering service however given how short they are for deckers and the sheer bulk of what’s come up they may not have time. I imagine the deckers will enter service eventually as is once assault screens and vaults are fitted.
 
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I wonder if they'll take the tables out of the Cornwall MMCs on the upper deck, They have partitions instead of a middle seat at the back on both decks, bit like the Newpowers
 

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I wonder if they'll take the tables out of the Cornwall MMCs on the upper deck, They have partitions instead of a middle seat at the back on both decks, bit like the Newpowers

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Leave the tables on them, put them on the 77
 

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Ok, do you know how many newpowers scotstoun is geting in total
I’m sure it was mentioned earlier in the thread that eventually Caledonia’s repowers would go to Scostoun and new E400EVs would be ordered for Caledonia.
 

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Traveline Scotland appears to have at least some of the new Lanarkshire timetables.

There are already 13 buses per hour between Bellshill & Motherwell Monday to Friday. I’m really not sure there’s a market for First to be adding another half hourly service at a higher fare.
 

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There are already 13 buses per hour between Bellshill & Motherwell Monday to Friday. I’m really not sure there’s a market for First to be adding another half hourly service at a higher fare.
My estimation is:

First 240 - 5 or 6 buses per hour
First 201 - 4 bph

JMB 5 - 2 bph on an indirect route.

Is there anything I’ve missed.
 

Jordan1296

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My estimation is:

First 240 - 5 or 6 buses per hour
First 201 - 4 bph

JMB 5 - 2 bph on an indirect route.

Is there anything I’ve missed.

Miscounted the First routes, due to the uneven AI frequencies. There will be a bus every 15 minutes between Hattonrigg & Motherwell, which I’m still not sure there is demand for.
 

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29 plus the ones at caly caly will then be due new electrics and the e400mmc from Scotstoun
Thanks, do u know how many newpowers will transfere from cally

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Thanks, do u know how many newpowers will transfere from cally
Trying to figure out if scotstown will have more or less deckers as they have lost b9s and soon the mmc 400s
 

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Just had a look at some of the new First Lanarkshire timetables on Traveline and this is my review and as it’s only timetables available at this moment, some of the routing may appear to be rather vague:

Service 209

Bellshill (Hattonrigg) - Bellshill Cross - Mossend - New Stevenston - Motherwell

M-F & Sat 0700-1800 approx - Every 30 mins

Service 211

Thrashbush - Airdrie - Cairnhill - Calderbank - Maxim - Holytown - New Stevenston - Motherwell - North Lodge - Hamilton - Eddlewood

M-F & Sat 0600-1930 approx - Hourly

Service 243

North Motherwell - Motherwell - Craigneuk - Wishaw - Waterloo - Carluke - Braidwood - Lanark

M-F 0500-2200 approx - Every 15 mins
Sat 0500-2200 approx - Every 20 mins
Sun 0700-2000 approx - Hourly

Services 291 & 293 (Clockwise / Anticlockwise)

Cleland - Coltness - Wishaw - WGH - Netherton - Motherwell - Carfin - Newarthill - Cleland

M-F & Sat 0500-2330 approx - Every 13-17 mins
Sun 0700-2330 approx - Every 33 mins via Wishaw corridor and every 64-70 mins via Carfin corridor

As of yet, there is no information available for the new Hamilton local service 225.
 
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