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That may be so, but unfortunately I speak neither! (Not that my Swedish is brilliant either...)Finnish or Estonian is even more effective.
That may be so, but unfortunately I speak neither! (Not that my Swedish is brilliant either...)Finnish or Estonian is even more effective.
It's funny isn't it, because Hansaring looks very threatening. But walk literally a couple of minutes away to the Eigelsteinorbourg and you'd swear you were in a different city.Another vote for Brussels Midi, very sketchy in my opinion and Hansaring one stop away from Koln HBF made me clutch onto my belongings extra tight!
It's amusing when the beggars open with a "do you speak English?" and you can simply go straight for "Euh? - non." or appropriate local alternative. Sadly my English accent is a killer.Finnish or Estonian is even more effective.
Indeed. Can concur. Visiting the area a couple of weeks ago actually reassured me that Britain is not the worst place to travel by rail, although the Belgian conductors were very enthusiastic about their jobs.
I waited hours for a bus at Liepaja station in early December 2008, but that was depressing rather than intimidating...
So yeah, I'd have to vote for Liepaja. Nowhere in my travels have I yet been uncomfortable with my actual surroundings.
Been through Dublin many times and never had a problem at Heuston but have had aggressive beggars challenging me at Connoly Station.Some unease I felt at Dublin Heuston,
Dublin can be surprisingly sketchy off the main drags. I stayed in the Premier Inn near Tara St. Station on the south side of the Liffey in '24, and had to run the gauntlet of drug-pushers and street-walkers to reach it. Sadly there was also a large encampment of homeless nearby as well. At 04.00 somebody smashed a large plate-glass window at the front of the hotel setting off the fire-alarms - we had to assemble outside in the freezing cold. Still I managed to catch my early train without difficulty...Some unease I felt at Dublin Heuston,
As Germany comes up a lot, Düsseldorf is not the worst, but the human exitement issue is a big issue on its northern entrance.
In Italy, Cuneo was felt dodgy. More irregular migrants than passengers in that station.
Or simply because railway stations are usually found in or near city centres, with lots of activities around them, while airports are usually located far away and in the middle of nowhere (you know, space for runways, parkings, and all that). Homeless people usually live from the leftovers they can find and they have far much chances to find any in a place vibrant with economic activity than in the middle of the fields. For what I have been able to see so far, you do not find much homeless people in those SNCF sugar beet stations either.With regard to the difference between airports and railway stations, am I right in thinking that airports often own the land for a considerable distance around the terminal building, whereas a the railway usually owns little but the station building? Therefore the airport on its own can take action to move undesirables well away, whereas the railway can only move them a few yards.
It really is quite tragic to see the condition some people are in who hang around outside the Stations. It's a wretched life and I genuinely feel sorry for them.Or simply because railway stations are usually found in or near city centres, with lots of activities around them, while airports are usually located far away and in the middle of nowhere (you know, space for runways, parkings, and all that). Homeless people usually live from the leftovers they can find and they have far much chances to find any in a place vibrant with economic activity than in the middle of the fields. For what I have been able to see so far, you do not find much homeless people in those SNCF sugar beet stations either.
Also, those people have no access to any kind of public toilets, so where do you expect them to go ?
Yes I would just reiterate that I was talking about night time specifically.@styles mentions New York - we visited in the year after the Twin Towers thing. We were going from Penn Station to Chicago and I was short of cash, so I left my wife sitting on a bench outside Penn Station while I looked for a cash machine. When I got back my wife was holding court with a large group of down-and-outs of the sort i would have given an extremely wide berth to.
She had been talking to them and introduced me to them and we had a very polite & civilised, even educated, discussion about the State of the Union. They didn't ask for any money, but I gave the guy who appeared to be the top dog $10 (I think it was 10) and he tried half-heartedly to give it me back.
It goes to show you can't always judge a book by its cover (but maybe the lack of a language barrier helped).
I generally haven’t either, even in places considered ‘no go zones’ by overdramatic ‘journalists’.Like I say, I haven't had a problem in a western country during the day ever.
I do find it interesting that all British stations I’ve encountered, don’t really have issues outside the station. Not to the extent I’ve seen on the continent. By ‘issues’ I mean minor anti-social behaviour, drunkenness or aggressive begging.Interesting how British stations have changed, as anyone who remembers Kings Cross in the 80s and 90s will confirm. I think of all the London termini that one still has a bit of that vibe outside, but it's nothing like it was.
Yes - but it was about 20 years ago. Don’t remember anything particularly concerning.Has anyone ever changed trains at Marchienne-au-Pont, near Charleroi?
I've only ever passed through but been thankful that was the case!
Probably organised pickpocketing - someone distracts you or harasses you and another takes your things. This is rife in Paris and Barcelona, and probably some other spots in Western Europe.The other things I’ve found concerning, but might not actually be anything sinister, is at Görlitzer Bahnhof on the Berlin U-Bahn and a station on the Paris Metro. An obvious gang, or group, all communicating with each other, but all standing at each corner of the corridors or stairways of the stations. Seemingly on the lookout for someone or something. It’s interesting that it seemed exactly the same at both stations.
Does anyone know what this behaviour is all about? It seemed very dodgy but I didn’t want to assume.
*Ahem* Euston. Full of drunks and bums at all times of day and I've seen ASB there as well. I've been approached several times by beggars when going to Cafe Nero, taking cash out, and crossing to the M&S. Euston is my least favourite station in London and possibly the whole UK for its sliminess and general dirtiness outside the station.I do find it interesting that all British stations I’ve encountered, don’t really have issues outside the station. Not to the extent I’ve seen on the continent. By ‘issues’ I mean minor anti-social behaviour, drunkenness or aggressive begging.
And yet I generally find British towns have worse anti-social behaviour in other areas, such as town centres, compared to the continent. Generally speaking of course.