Stagecoach South & South East

[embers25]

Could the renumbering discussion be moved to a speculative thread as its not fact and also the posts are so long it makes reading the thread for actual info a challenge

 

[Old Walter]

Could the renumbering discussion be moved to a speculative thread as its not fact and also the posts are so long it makes reading the thread for actual info a challenge

Hi there, I've been a bit busy for the last couple of days but I do see what you mean. It's quite a long list (though seemed clearer than describing each area in blocks of text) but at the end of the day it's not actually anything that's happening. Looking at the other posts about old route numbers etc I thought it might be ok, but those posts aren't anywhere near as long.

I've deleted posts and sent them to the Speculative board (which I didn't know was there) - hopefully I've managed to edit them into the forum in a readable way......

== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: 30 Aug 2025 ==

Now for a bit of factual stuff, a bit of a niche question but working in a place with lots of duty and schedule numbers (transport related) this does interest me, does anyone have info as to how duty numbers are allocated at Stagecoach South these days? I can give a couple of examples from years ago to illustrate what I mean, but don't want to clog up the thread too much:

Basingstoke 1999
Mon to Fri early starts town routes counting up in time order in odd numbers duties 1-69
Mon to Fri late finishes counting down from latest finish times even numbers 2-26
Mon to Fri country routes (same odd early - even late principle) duties 70 to 85
Mon to Fri Alton rota routes (only early duties) duties 91 - 95.
Variation of duty on any day of the week prefixed by the day of week counting from Monday. Example Monday only duty 1 = 101, Wednesday only duty 1 = 301. Saturday and Sunday duties prefixed by 6## or 7## corresponding with day of week.

Aldershot 1998
Mon to Fri early/main duties in time order - 1-55
Mon to Fri middle/daytime duties in time order - 71-77
Mon to Fri late shifts in time order - 81 - 88.
Saturdays prefixed with 1, Sundays prefixed with 2.
Haslemere outstation prefixed with 5 (MF), 6 (Sat) and 7 (Sun).
Petersfield outstation in operation - sequence not known.

Hopefully that's an ok question to ask and I know things have changed over the years (such as Basingstoke country duties going into the 3## and 5## series a while ago and school holiday shifts there going into four digits in the 1### series) but without being there and being able to ask the questions we have places to ask like here. Grateful for any replies and discussion : )

 

[RDP]

A number of changes take place from this weekend at South East. The main ones are the closure of Folkestone bus station and revised timetables in the Eastbourne area the main changes being the transfer of service 54 (Eastbourne-Uckfield) to Go Ahead (Brighton & Hove) and the Loop becoming the Link. One further change sees service 91 Dover-Folkestone via Alkham rerouted to serve Buckland Hospital.

Copied from the Stagecoach Website.​

Eastbourne Service Change September

www.stagecoachbus.com

Changes to Folkestone Bus Station (Folkestone and Hythe District Council - A Brighter Future Project)​

As part of Folkestone and Hythe District Council's 'A Brighter Future Project', Folkestone bus station will be remodelled into a new 'Green Heart' for the town.

The Folkestone 'A Brighter Future' Project' is a government-funded regeneration project aimed at establishing a sustainable and vibrant future for Folkestone town centre. You can find out more about the project here.

Following extensive public engagement, Folkestone and Hythe District Council settled on three priority projects to improve the town for residents and visitors alike. One of these priority projects is the Green Heart Plan which involves transforming the bus station in Bouverie Square into a community park. The council hopes the area will be used for events as well as serving as a welcoming outdoor space with benches, gardens, and accessible walkways.

We have been working closely with the council to ensure a smooth transition to the new site; access to buses is a critical factor in the redevelopment scheme and for the future of the town.

The final day of operations at Folkestone bus station will be the 20th September. To replace the current set-up, Folkestone and Hythe District Council are creating a new linear bus station along Middelburg Square, providing an inviting, pedestrian-friendly transport hub. We hope to keep service disruption to a minimum so temporary bus stops will be set up while this work is being completed. We will provide further updates as work on the transport hub progresses and the permanent bus stops become available.

You can find more information on how these changes will affect where you catch your bus below:

 

[LUYMun]

There have been photos circulating on social media lately of Aldershot's new electric buses coming in the form of Yutong U11DDs painted in the "We've Got You" dark blue livery. Currently stored at the moment while waiting for the electrics at Aldershot to go live, where they will operate routes 1 and 20. Some may go to Guildford to run on local services as a temporary measure. These will get rid of the last of the Tridents (promise)!

 

[Class450/4DES]

There have been photos circulating on social media lately of Aldershot's new electric buses coming in the form of Yutong U11DDs painted in the "We've Got You" dark blue livery. Currently stored at the moment while waiting for the electrics at Aldershot to go live, where they will operate routes 1 and 20. Some may go to Guildford to run on local services as a temporary measure. These will get rid of the last of the Tridents (promise)!

When are these due to enter service? As I am planning on riding the Gold E400MMC's next week.

 

[Murray J]

When are these due to enter service? As I am planning on riding the Gold E400MMC's next week.

I heard December a few months back, which seems plausible given Aldershot doesn't have chargers installed and no type training will have taken place most likely. Maybe a little earlier than that but I doubt there'll be any in service next week, and certainly not at Aldershot.

 

[Class450/4DES]

I heard December a few months back, which seems plausible given Aldershot doesn't have chargers installed and no type training will have taken place most likely. Maybe a little earlier than that but I doubt there'll be any in service next week, and certainly not at Aldershot.

Alright, thanks!

 

[Simon75]

Is the 700 Portsmouth to Brighton not one through bus anymore?

 

[embers25]

Is the 700 Portsmouth to Brighton not one through bus anymore?

Nope. Its Pompey-Chichester, Chichester-Littlehampton and Worthing-Brighton. Littlehampton-Worthing is now a 701. One 3 pound single can be used across all 4 to go from Pompey-Brighton still. Note this thru fare is not valid on the quicker 500 Chichester-Littlehampton.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Is the 700 Portsmouth to Brighton not one through bus anymore?

It was split in May 2014 into three routes, but all retaining the 700 number and Coastliner branding.

• Portsmouth - Chichester - Bognor - Flansham Park (3 per hour)
• Chichester - Bognor - Littlehampton (3 per hour)
• Arundel - Littlehampton - Worthing - Brighton (2 per hour starting Arundel, 6 per hour Littlehampton to Brighton)

The first two overlapped over the Chichester - Bognor - Flansham section, offering a combined 6 bus per hour.

The western terminus was cut from Southsea to Portsmouth (The Hard Interchange).

It has had various amendments since, such as the Arundel to Littlehampton leg now part of hourly route 9 (Arundel - Littlehampton - Worthing - Shoreham), and the more recent ones described by @embers25 in post #849

 

[alex397]

I do love the experience that Stagecoach South East gives the travelling public.

I aim to get the 13.16 route 43 from Canterbury to Sandwich.
13.08 - the bus due to run this arrives at the stand. 7 minutes late from its previous run, so I appreciate it may also leave a bit late. Driver leaves.
13.25 - start to wonder if this bus will actually run. There’s no digital departure board at Canterbury Bus Station, so can’t check that. The travel information kiosk closed a while ago, replaced by roving staff - however these roving staff soon disappeared, as expected. I can’t check the Stagecoach App, as the data reception is terrible in Canterbury. Even if I could have logged on, I doubt it would have said anything about this journey.
13.30 - a new driver slowly appears at the bus, gets on and shut doors. Then really takes his time to log on to the bus as slowly as possible, also including a phone call.
13.35 - loading actually begins, by which time passengers for the next departure (13.46) are now starting to board! Driver doesn’t even look at any passengers or says a word when people ask for tickets. Definitely one of the ‘old school’ drivers, as evident by his East Kent drivers badge.
13.44 - we actually leave!

It’s frustrating moments like this which make me grateful I have a car! I only tend to use the bus for enthusiast reasons, or if I’m meeting people for a drink. The most frustrating thing is the lack of information.

EDIT: On reflection, I will make a formal complaint about this. It is not necessarily the drivers fault but I think my experience today was unacceptable really, and is the sort of thing which leads to people ditching using the bus, if they can. I’ve very rarely made complaints about buses. The few times I have has been due to Stagecoach South East cancelling 3 buses in a row or cancelling the last bus of the day, of TfL buses refusing ENCTS passes

 

[RDP]

Some changes coming up at Stagecoach South East.

Tomorrow 22nd November is the last day of operation for the Stagecoach Connect DRT. From Monday 24th it is replaced by new service 92 Whitfield-Aylesham via Eythorne and Elvington.

Some additional weekend services will operate during the run up to Christmas.

Special Christmas services 2025

www.stagecoachbus.com

Some changes in the Dover area see service 67 Buckland Hospital-Whitfield withdrawn after 5th December and new service 66 Priory Station-Whitfield via the Eastern Docks starting on 8th. There is also an evening service on Fastrack D from 8th.

 

[izvor]

Some changes coming up at Stagecoach South East.

Thanks for the info. Impressive that the links to the new Christmas timetables don't take you to the new timetables.

The 67 was clearly designed to fail (or by an idiot) and the new 66 doesn't impress much more. Good news about the evening Fastrack though, and the restoration of the 92 (even though it doesn't go to Dover). Costs less to run than the DRT, perhaps?

 

[alex397]

Thanks for the info. Impressive that the links to the new Christmas timetables don't take you to the new timetables.

The 67 was clearly designed to fail (or by an idiot) and the new 66 doesn't impress much more. Good news about the evening Fastrack though, and the restoration of the 92 (even though it doesn't go to Dover). Costs less to run than the DRT, perhaps?

Not quite sure what to make of these routes. Many of them wouldn’t be needed if many cuts weren’t made in the first place a few years ago.
The 67 was introduced by Kent County Council following campaigns from local residents after the 61 was withdrawn from the northern area of Whitfield. The withdrawn section was only partially replaced by the Fastrack.

I’m pleased this new 66 route brings a route back to the Eastern Docks. This is Dover’s largest employer and for years now has had no public transport. There is also no public transport link for foot passengers travelling from Dover Priory Station to the docks, so this brings a back a direct service for this - I believe it’s the first direct link, from the railway station, since P&O withdrew their free bus link. It has no evening or Sunday service so it won’t be useful all the time.

The new 92 is not as good as the service previously provided by the 89 which was withdrawn between Aylesham and Dover many years ago (it was partially replaced by a different 92, which the DRT eventually replaced), but still good to have a fixed service back now for Eythorne and Elvington, which are rather deprived former mining villages. History shows that passengers much prefer direct bus services so travelling to/from Dover will still be a bit inconvenient, but at least Whitfield has lots of shops including the Tesco, and the leisure centre.

I do think the Dover network looks a bit messy now compared to how it used to be before the cuts. The 64 to various estates gets ridiculously busy in tiny buses because of its hourly frequency. This seems similar on the 61 which also replaced the 62, though it’s half-hourly though not so bad. I’ve travelled on these routes a few times since the changes, and they’ve often been packed, and I felt rather claustrophobic each time! Then there are these ‘bitty’ routes such as the 67, 66, 92 which fill some gaps, seemingly in response to complaints about previously cut routes.

 

[izvor]

Not quite sure what to make of these routes. Many of them wouldn’t be needed if many cuts weren’t made in the first place a few years ago.

Indeed, and it annoys me that useful routes were axed then for economic reasons, without replacement, yet support for a fairly useless service like the 67 can be found at the drop of a hat. This can be laid at the door of KCC, though Stagecoach do seem to enjoy axing their commercial routes at short notice, leaving the LAs to pick up the pieces - which in Kent so often means zilch. For example, they should have provided some sort of replacement for the 89 when it was axed, not wait several weeks (when all the remaining traffic disappeared or found other means to travel) then introduce a DRT service (not serving Dover) of limited use, and no use to workers. No surprise it has been a failure.

Interesting comments about the 91 etc. The 66 does seem to be a more useful route than the 67, but that 3-hour gap is poor, and I can't see it lasting if it's fully commercial. Then maybe they'll have to serve North Whitfield with the 92, which would mean culling the Aylesham end...

 

[SeveerYeliab]

Im pretty sure the 66 is KCC funded, I seem to remember that a link from Dover Priory to Eastern Docks has been in Kent’s BSIP plan for a while now - possibly this is just KCC combining funding a service to North Whitfield as well as serving Eastern Docks.

Supposedly the new fastrack timetable will coincide with the new electrics - but I’m yet to see a photo of them actually at the depot; however the vehicle duties on the bus times timetable show buses swapping out for supposed charging times.

 

[Man of Kent]

Im pretty sure the 66 is KCC funded, I seem to remember that a link from Dover Priory to Eastern Docks has been in Kent’s BSIP plan for a while now - possibly this is just KCC combining funding a service to North Whitfield as well as serving Eastern Docks.

66 is commercial, according to the DVSA website.

Then maybe they'll have to serve North Whitfield with the 92, which would mean culling the Aylesham end...

The DRT was funded by housing developer contributions from the Aylesham area; not sure if this applies to the 92, but if it does, then cutting that end of the route is not an option.

 

[RDP]

Thanks for the info. Impressive that the links to the new Christmas timetables don't take you to the new timetables.

The temporary Sunday timetables for services 1X and X3 are on Bustimes.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Im pretty sure the 66 is KCC funded, I seem to remember that a link from Dover Priory to Eastern Docks has been in Kent’s BSIP plan for a while now - possibly this is just KCC combining funding a service to North Whitfield as well as serving Eastern Docks.

66 is commercial, according to the DVSA website.

The 66 being commercial also seems to be backed up by the Stagecoach news article which reads:

On Monday 8 December we are excited to launch a brand new service in Dover - service 66 - which will connect Dover Priory, the Port of Dover and Whitfield together. This is Stagecoach's first new commercial service in Dover in a while, and we are looking to help connect more communities and create better connections for our customers. This service will start as a 9-month trial and we will be reviewing the customer usage regularly.

Source: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promo...table-extension-and-new-port-of-dover-service

 

[izvor]

The temporary Sunday timetables for services 1X and X3 are on Bustimes.

All the more reason why they should be on the Stagecoach website!

Stagecoach tuck away their service change announcements under "Promos & Offers" rather than "Service Updates", then don't provide the links they link to. Some of their pdf timetables are pretty much unreadable too. My complaints about this go unanswered. Appalling.

 

[Man of Kent]

The temporary Sunday timetables for services 1X and X3 are on Bustimes.

They are now also on the Stagecoach website.

 

[Flange Squeal]

Cross-town Basingstoke route 6 (Popley to Winklebury) looks set to be split in the town centre from 11th January. The 6 number to remain East Popley to Basingstoke, with the Basingstoke to Winklebury leg becoming route 9. The following was posted on the Hampshire Bus Update Facebook page:

NEW: Stagecoach South are splitting its route 6 in Basingstoke.

From 11th January -

Service 6 Basingstoke Town Centre to East Popley
Service 9 Basingstoke Town Centre to Winklebury

Source: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/17hQ99BP6Q/

Nothing about frequencies of each bit mentioned. Currently every 15mins Mon-Sat (5 buses), every 20 mins Sunday (3 buses), and half-hourly evenings (2 buses).

 

[Old Walter]

Thanks for this, fortunately I was able to view the Facebook comments as a guest (this forum is the nearest I get to social media) and I do agree with the question about the route numbers.

I don’t think it’s picky at all to ask why Winklebury loses the 6 number - it has it currently, has done for the last 25 years and the Winklebury - Town section is the only unchanged bit of the August 2000 network change.

The latest bit of tweaking after said network change a quarter of a century ago - it really came across as too many changes in too short a time, causing regular tweaking and experimenting ever since……

 

[fgwrich]

Thanks for this, fortunately I was able to view the Facebook comments as a guest (this forum is the nearest I get to social media) and I do agree with the question about the route numbers.

I don’t think it’s picky at all to ask why Winklebury loses the 6 number - it has it currently, has done for the last 25 years and the Winklebury - Town section is the only unchanged bit of the August 2000 network change.

The latest bit of tweaking after said network change a quarter of a century ago - it really came across as too many changes in too short a time, causing regular tweaking and experimenting ever since……

Indeed, it’s rather odd as the East Popley end was originally the other end of the cross town 3 (East Popley, Oakridge, South View, Town Centre, South Ham) and the 9 was always the around the outskirts route from the Town Centre to Chineham via just about everywhere since remembered 4.

However I can understand why it’s been split, the knot in the middle bearing the rush hour traffic through the town centre which often causes either section to end up running late.

 

[Flange Squeal]

I wonder if it’s just something as simple as someone thinking Popley being served by consecutive numbers 4, 5 and 6 looks good on paper?

Meanwhile, over in Aldershot, local route 15 is to lose a small loop in Heron Wood from it from 4th January.

From Sunday 4th January, Stagecoach's cross-town Aldershot route 15 (North Town - Aldershot - Tices Meadow) will no longer perform a loop at Heron Wood. Buses will continue to run up Whyte Avenue and turn right onto Tongham Road, but will instead then turn at the roundabout and return back along Tongham Road and onwards to Aldershot.

Currently, from this roundabout buses run along Oakway, right into Chestnut Avenue (current timing point near Alderwood School/Leisure Centre, familiar to those to attend the model rail exhibition there), and another right along Tongham Road back to the roundabout and onwards to Aldershot.

This change is down to "access issues" which cause delays (presumably parked cars making it tight). The nearest alternative stop on Tongham Road (by the junction with Heron Wood Road) is around a 5 minute walk from the current Chestnut Road timing point which will no longer be served, and around 7 minutes from the far end of Heron Wood on Willow Way.

Below is one of my very crude 'MS Paint meets Google Maps' illustrations, as it's been a while since I last did one of these masterpieces......(!) Red shows the section of route being withdrawn.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1MbFhH2Fsj/

 

[Mark L]

Thanks for this, fortunately I was able to view the Facebook comments as a guest (this forum is the nearest I get to social media) and I do agree with the question about the route numbers.

I don’t think it’s picky at all to ask why Winklebury loses the 6 number - it has it currently, has done for the last 25 years and the Winklebury - Town section is the only unchanged bit of the August 2000 network change.

The latest bit of tweaking after said network change a quarter of a century ago - it really came across as too many changes in too short a time, causing regular tweaking and experimenting ever since……

From around 1971 until 1979 bus services in Basingstoke used different numbers depending upon their direction of travel. Those heading broadly north were initially numbered in the 100s and southbound services in the 200s. At the time Winklebury was a bit of an anomoly as it was served by a circular service which became the 117 (anti-clockwise) and 217 (clockwise) and a Town Centre - Winklebury route rather than a cross town one. The latter became the 121 for journys to Winkebury and 220 for buses to the town centre. The 1971 renumbering saw the end of numbers that had been used since Wilts & Dorset renumbered the network inherited from Venutre in 1951. At the time it simply added 100 to the Venture number.

In 1973 all ex Wilts & Dorset routes were renumbered (except the fomrer joint H&D/W&D services) again by adding 200 to their previous number to avoid clashes with Hants & Dorset service numbers - the 111 became a 311 for example. Interestingly the renumberiung cam esome months after the Wilts & Dorset fleetname had been superseded by that of its larger southern neighbour. Directionally based numbers survived in Basingstoke until 1979 when the Venturebus MAP scheme was implemented. At this stage everything was renumbered in the 300s. There have been several renumberings since then so Winklebury proably doesn't have any great historic claim to route 6 - it certainly doesn't rival the 24 in London or Birmingham's outer circle 11! The only bus route in the town that has anything like a link to past numbers is the 76 (Basingstoke - Andover) which is the modern day incarnation of Wilts & Dorset service 76 (Salisbury - Andover - Basingstoke).

It's noteworthy that the enlarged NBC operators created in the 1970s were keen to avoid duplicate numbers although the risk of (say) a passenger in Basingtoke being confused by the existence of a service 121 to Winklebury and a similarly numbered route to New Milton both operated by Hants & Dorset was slim! These days Statgecoach South has five services numbered 1 and life seems to go on.

 

[Old Walter]

From around 1971 until 1979 bus services in Basingstoke used different numbers depending upon their direction of travel. Those heading broadly north were initially numbered in the 100s and southbound services in the 200s. At the time Winklebury was a bit of an anomoly as it was served by a circular service which became the 117 (anti-clockwise) and 217 (clockwise) and a Town Centre - Winklebury route rather than a cross town one. The latter became the 121 for journys to Winkebury and 220 for buses to the town centre. The 1971 renumbering saw the end of numbers that had been used since Wilts & Dorset renumbered the network inherited from Venutre in 1951. At the time it simply added 100 to the Venture number.

In 1973 all ex Wilts & Dorset routes were renumbered (except the fomrer joint H&D/W&D services) again by adding 200 to their previous number to avoid clashes with Hants & Dorset service numbers - the 111 became a 311 for example. Interestingly the renumberiung cam esome months after the Wilts & Dorset fleetname had been superseded by that of its larger southern neighbour. Directionally based numbers survived in Basingstoke until 1979 when the Venturebus MAP scheme was implemented. At this stage everything was renumbered in the 300s. There have been several renumberings since then so Winklebury proably doesn't have any great historic claim to route 6 - it certainly doesn't rival the 24 in London or Birmingham's outer circle 11! The only bus route in the town that has anything like a link to past numbers is the 76 (Basingstoke - Andover) which is the modern day incarnation of Wilts & Dorset service 76 (Salisbury - Andover - Basingstoke).

It's noteworthy that the enlarged NBC operators created in the 1970s were keen to avoid duplicate numbers although the risk of (say) a passenger in Basingtoke being confused by the existence of a service 121 to Winklebury and a similarly numbered route to New Milton both operated by Hants & Dorset was slim! These days Statgecoach South has five services numbered 1 and life seems to go on.

Thanks very much indeed for this post - it’s a great summary and for me fills in a lot of blanks. I do have some timetables from various times but didn’t know when the changes would have happened, so this tells me the main ones were 1951, 1971, 1973 and 1979. That’s an excellent bit of info and I appreciate that.

From what I can gather the next big change was the town centre one-way system in 1990 which resulted in the two digit series (Winklebury going onto the cross town 59 for example), then the splitting of the cross town routes in 1994 (the Brighton Hill leg of the 59 becoming the 39). Then various route & timetable changes up to 2000 with the single digit network forming the base of the network today.

I must admit I have lost track of the changes since 2000 completely - there’s been so many! I see what you mean with the 76, this will easily have been the most established number in the area, even the 32 number which was bought back a while ago isn’t an exact match (the version via the hospital was the 32A). 6 Winklebury is up there with 25 years but that serves more as trivia than anything else.

From what I can gather Stagecoach Hampshire Bus tried to avoiding duplicating the numbers as per NBC but this all went ages ago - the single digit local routes in Winchester, the 3#-5# series in Basingstoke and the 8#-9# series in Andover. Casting my mind back a while there though!

Thanks again, excellent post : )

 

[Mark L]

Thanks again, excellent post : )

You’re welcome!

A few other snippets that may be of interest before I get accused of going off topic!…

The Newbury service was originally the 122 (then 322) and was jointly operated with Thames (later Alder) Valley. The service was introduced in 1953 and followed the acquisition by Wilts & Dorset of the licences held by Huntley of Oakley for its Basingstoke to Kingsclere service. It was renumbered 402 in the late 1970s (I think in September 1979 when the Venturebus network was launched). At the same time the Brighton Hill services - 311/2 and 411/2 became the 322 and 323. The 322 went directly along Winchester Road whilst the 323 took the scenic route via Hackwood Road and the old bypass. At some stage (and I can’t find the exact date) the Newbury service became the 302 and then 32. The number 302 had previously been used for a service between Andover and Basingstoke via Longparish but these were renumbered 275.

Bus services in the town were in a constant state of flux during the 1970s as the town expanded and roads were closed to facilitate construction of the ring road. Some buses to Sheppard Road (they didn’t run to Brighton Hill until 1975) used to use Cranbourne Lane and/or Cliddesden Road until these were cut by Ringway South after which they were diverted via Hackwood Road. Service 109 found its route to Cliddesden and beyond cut by the ring road and the M3!

Next year marks the centenary of the establishment of Venture which operated the town’s buses until 1950. It would be nice to see a member of the present day fleet outshopped in Venture colours but I’m not sure anyone knows, hand on heart, what shade of red was used!

 

[Old Walter]

You’re welcome!

A few other snippets that may be of interest before I get accused of going off topic!…

Aha! Well, I certainly appreciate this and would support a historical thread just on this if it were to come about. I’ve found your posts fascinating and I’m so glad someone has a record going so far back.

For me it’s not just about the routes, but the history of the town too, trying to visualise travelling all the way down Cranbourne and Cliddesden Lanes and Brighton Hill with no service until 1975. I did find the 1973 guide earlier (I’ll attach the map, just in case it’s of interest to others) and wondered about BH. I know that the first parts of it were constructed by 1973 so did wonder when it would appear on the map.

I found the late 1990s service fascinating (especially the very heavily inter-worked setups from 1998-2000) so the 2000 reorg and mainly standalone routes was a big change. The only time I’ve seen something similar since was during the pandemic when 1/3/8 worked together. Mind you, there is still the 10/15/17 arrangement today.

Better attach the map before I forget…..

 

[Flange Squeal]

The West Popley 5 is being reduced from every 15 mins to every 20 mins from 11th January. It’ll be interesting to see if the split 6 also sees a similar reduction to East Popley (6) and Winklebury (9).

5 - Basingstoke to West Popley via Oakridge

Registration number
PH0005857/192
Type
Normal Stopping
Supported by subsidy?
No
Authorities
Timetables

5
Basingstoke - West Popley
Variation history

Received
27 Nov 25
Effective
11 Jan 26
Reduce the headway to every 20-minutes

Source: https://bustimes.org/registrations/PH0005857/192