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Why would you? It's going in the wrong direction and so is a totally separate journey. Deighton Bar is the end of the line, coming from Leeds for the X98 which always goes to DB and the X99 that sometimes does. You would have to pay again for the new journey, commencing from DB into Leeds. Surely you would just wait for it to come back from DB on it's way back into Wetherby when it is heading to Leeds?
Lack of local knowledge. It only goes one way round the Deighton Road estate so some people who want to go to Leeds will have to get on the before it reaches the Deighton Bar terminus.
Passengers wanting to travel to Leeds from any of the Ainsty Road stops will be joining before it reaches the terminus.
 
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I stand corrected on my original comment, EY published the following for April service changes:

(My bolding)
Ever choosing a Saturday to end the service 13 timetable is completely nuts, as the big fall in holiday camp holidays will be after the weekend at the end of the half term holidays. The buses would go very quiet from lunchtime Monday. Maybe they will rethink next year? Similar to them missing out on lots of trade during cheap holidays from 1 March. I see some drivers had extra work yesterday, as a convoy of out of service DDs headed south from Scarborough.
 

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Ever choosing a Saturday to end the service 13 timetable is completely nuts, as the big fall in holiday camp holidays will be after the weekend at the end of the half term holidays. The buses would go very quiet from lunchtime Monday. Maybe they will rethink next year? Similar to them missing out on lots of trade during cheap holidays from 1 March. I see some drivers had extra work yesterday, as a convoy of out of service DDs headed south from Scarborough.
Most service changes across the country happen on a Sunday because it's the quietest day so it's the standard approach. The more sensible thing would be to have the timetable and rota change and then have a single special day operation/registration.
 

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Ever choosing a Saturday to end the service 13 timetable is completely nuts, as the big fall in holiday camp holidays will be after the weekend at the end of the half term holidays. The buses would go very quiet from lunchtime Monday. Maybe they will rethink next year? Similar to them missing out on lots of trade during cheap holidays from 1 March. I see some drivers had extra work yesterday, as a convoy of out of service DDs headed south from Scarborough.
Probably on transfer back to Hull following the summer uplift finishing. Looks like 729, 753 and 762 back in hull now.
 

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Why would you? It's going in the wrong direction and so is a totally separate journey. Deighton Bar is the end of the line, coming from Leeds for the X98 which always goes to DB and the X99 that sometimes does. You would have to pay again for the new journey, commencing from DB into Leeds. Surely you would just wait for it to come back from DB on it's way back into Wetherby when it is heading to Leeds?
If people want to use the bus that way a smart company would accommodate that sort of usage. It could easily be registered as a circular allowing people to purchase one ticket similarly to how it works on the 372.
 

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Why would you? It's going in the wrong direction and so is a totally separate journey. Deighton Bar is the end of the line, coming from Leeds for the X98 which always goes to DB and the X99 that sometimes does. You would have to pay again for the new journey, commencing from DB into Leeds. Surely you would just wait for it to come back from DB on it's way back into Wetherby when it is heading to Leeds?
I thought you had an intimate knowledge of the route and its use. What do people living on Ainsty do?
 

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Ever choosing a Saturday to end the service 13 timetable is completely nuts, as the big fall in holiday camp holidays will be after the weekend at the end of the half term holidays. The buses would go very quiet from lunchtime Monday. Maybe they will rethink next year? Similar to them missing out on lots of trade during cheap holidays from 1 March. I see some drivers had extra work yesterday, as a convoy of out of service DDs headed south from Scarborough.
See my earlier comment about the working week at EY for local drivers
 

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Aren't they due some Electroliners soon? Probably getting a head start on driver training.
 

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I've noticed Elloughton Depot is starting to operate some 46 (Holme-On-Spalding-Moor to Market Weighton) diagrams. Is this preparation for some changes to the 46 and perhaps integration with the X45/6/7?
 

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I've noticed Elloughton Depot is starting to operate some 46 (Holme-On-Spalding-Moor to Market Weighton) diagrams. Is this preparation for some changes to the 46 and perhaps integration with the X45/6/7?
Been doing since at least beginning of September
 

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Lack of local knowledge. It only goes one way round the Deighton Road estate so some people who want to go to Leeds will have to get on the before it reaches the Deighton Bar terminus.
Passengers wanting to travel to Leeds from any of the Ainsty Road stops will be joining before it reaches the terminus.
And quite frankly, if the weather is bad or cold, I don’t blame them for wanting to get the bus slightly earlier!
 

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Ever choosing a Saturday to end the service 13 timetable is completely nuts, as the big fall in holiday camp holidays will be after the weekend at the end of the half term holidays. The buses would go very quiet from lunchtime Monday. Maybe they will rethink next year? Similar to them missing out on lots of trade during cheap holidays from 1 March. I see some drivers had extra work yesterday, as a convoy of out of service DDs headed south from Scarborough.
It's certainly possible to not change a service on a day most likely to suit operational convenience, Arriva's changes typically occur on a Sunday but Arriva always have the last day of their summer season X94 journeys being the Sunday of Whitby Goth Weekend, meaning the X93/X94 winter timetable changes actually come into effect on the Monday rather than the Sunday.
 

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The X98 works like this - Until it turns into Ainsty Road from Wetherby, then it is not classed as heading back to Leeds, so if you are on Deighton Road then you have to wait for it to do the Ainsty, Aire loop and for it to be on its way back to Wetherby and then Leeds. Once it turns into Ainsty, then as it is a one way loop, then it is classed as heading back to Leeds and you can buy the ticket.

I have never taken the bus to that side of Wetherby as that is further than I need to travel.
 

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I heard 901-910? The E400's that the hybrids are replacing are rumored to be replacing Olympus's for schools

Not sure how true
 

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I heard 901-910? The E400's that the hybrids are replacing are rumored to be replacing Olympus's for schools

Not sure how true
seems sensible, not the most reliable so will be used a bit less and can still cover service work if needed
 

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The X98 works like this - Until it turns into Ainsty Road from Wetherby, then it is not classed as heading back to Leeds, so if you are on Deighton Road then you have to wait for it to do the Ainsty, Aire loop and for it to be on its way back to Wetherby and then Leeds. Once it turns into Ainsty, then as it is a one way loop, then it is classed as heading back to Leeds and you can buy the ticket.

I have never taken the bus to that side of Wetherby as that is further than I need to travel.
Whereas I, and many other residents of Wetherby, have been able to ride the full loop previously. It used to ‘change’ just after the Morrison’s garage and if ever it hadn’t, we’d be allowed ridership. I can understand why people would question this. There not trying to board at Wetherby bus station and do it because they can.
 

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The bigger problem is that the service is no more reliable than before. Missing services, fortunately not as regularly, but the timekeeping is just as poor as before. Only one bus has the next stop display and that doesn't work on the X99 section, and why does it have to say "This is the X99 to Leeds" twice after every stop? It becomes very irritating, as does the engine turning off at every stop, for 5 seconds, before re-starting. Surely it should be programmed to remain running until the bus has been stopped for at least 30 seconds. It is linked to the doors opening, so it remains running in traffic jams and at traffic lights!
 

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The bigger problem is that the service is no more reliable than before. Missing services, fortunately not as regularly, but the timekeeping is just as poor as before. Only one bus has the next stop display and that doesn't work on the X99 section, and why does it have to say "This is the X99 to Leeds" twice after every stop? It becomes very irritating, as does the engine turning off at every stop, for 5 seconds, before re-starting. Surely it should be programmed to remain running until the bus has been stopped for at least 30 seconds. It is linked to the doors opening, so it remains running in traffic jams and at traffic lights!
It says 'This is the X99 to Leeds' same as Transdev buses say 'This is the 7 fast to Harrogate' after every stop between Wetherby and Harrogate. It's called keeping the passenger informed.
Presumably you would prefer the engine to keep running with the doors open and hope that the bus does not set off! Please don't tell me it can't with the doors open.
It is unrealistic to expect a service coming out of Leeds to keep to time at busy periods. Some people are never happy.
(I am one of those people on the side of Wetherby that you have not visited)
 

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The bigger problem is that the service is no more reliable than before. Missing services, fortunately not as regularly, but the timekeeping is just as poor as before. Only one bus has the next stop display and that doesn't work on the X99 section, and why does it have to say "This is the X99 to Leeds" twice after every stop? It becomes very irritating, as does the engine turning off at every stop, for 5 seconds, before re-starting. Surely it should be programmed to remain running until the bus has been stopped for at least 30 seconds. It is linked to the doors opening, so it remains running in traffic jams and at traffic lights!
The engine stops if the handbrake is on and the doors are open. If just the handbrake is on or doors are open then nothing happens.
 

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The bigger problem is that the service is no more reliable than before. Missing services, fortunately not as regularly, but the timekeeping is just as poor as before. Only one bus has the next stop display and that doesn't work on the X99 section, and why does it have to say "This is the X99 to Leeds" twice after every stop? It becomes very irritating, as does the engine turning off at every stop, for 5 seconds, before re-starting. Surely it should be programmed to remain running until the bus has been stopped for at least 30 seconds. It is linked to the doors opening, so it remains running in traffic jams and at traffic lights!
Changing operators was never going to really improve reliability without drastic timetable changes and other measures to traffic from the local authority. Saying "This is the X99 to Leeds" is the same to all buses with announcements across EY's fleet, "This is the Eastrider X46 to Hull" as an example, so not surprising. The driver can always turn off the engine during traffic jams and at traffic lights.
 

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Understand from staff working at EY that several supervisor/management roles are up for redundancy as they are cutting costs which are not helped by staff asking for a 10% wage increase in the latest talks for next year and 'apparently' the latest temsa is only temporarily branded for EY and expected to move to proctors at some point, morale seems extremely low in the local bus and coaching department.
 

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Understand from staff working at EY that several supervisor/management roles are up for redundancy as they are cutting costs which are not helped by staff asking for a 10% wage increase in the latest talks for next year and 'apparently' the latest temsa is only temporarily branded for EY and expected to move to proctors at some point, morale seems extremely low in the local bus and coaching department.
From what I’ve heard, they’ve actually made some real strides recently by bringing in industry professionals who genuinely know how to run bus operations. It’s a big shift after a period where, frankly, the tail was wagging the dog — leading to those long spells of labour shortages and inefficiencies.

Drivers used to comment about there being three or four people in the control room “supervising” while services were still being lost. It gave the place a sort of “traditional” feel, with more people involved in operations than the bigger groups tend to have — and in some ways that worked — but it clearly wasn’t sustainable. The current management seem to be focusing on getting back to basics and building a structure that actually delivers.

As for the claim that “morale has never been so low,” I’ve heard that line throughout my lifetime in the industry — and now in retirement too! There are always a few disruptors who “hate the job” but, despite a buoyant labour market, never actually leave. Instead of voting with their feet, they stay put and spread negativity. Meanwhile, around 95% of the workforce just get on with it — they come to work, enjoy what they do, have the odd niggle, and live their lives.

Interestingly, it’s often those same malcontents who are first in line to apply for supervisor or management roles. There’s almost a theory in that: some people are driven less by wanting to improve things and more by wanting control or validation. In the end, the people who truly keep the wheels turning are the ones who quietly take pride in doing the job well.
 

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Understand from staff working at EY that several supervisor/management roles are up for redundancy as they are cutting costs which are not helped by staff asking for a 10% wage increase in the latest talks for next year and 'apparently' the latest temsa is only temporarily branded for EY and expected to move to proctors at some point, morale seems extremely low in the local bus and coaching department.
As far as I'm aware the Temsa is staying at EY.
 

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