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Closure of Bransty Tunnel (near Whitehaven) expected until further notice

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How do the units at Workinton get fuelled and so forth? I guess there is some contingency being worked out of how the units are cycled through exams from now on.
They'd be swapped at Carlisle with fresh units off Neville Hill or Heaton, I'd have thought. The daily mileage shuttling to and from Carlisle wouldn't be too high (there'd be a lot of 'standage' at each end) and 156s can do around 1000 miles per tank.

But yes, it's likely to be a bit of a pain for Control as they'll be needing to do swaps more regularly than the normal unit diagrams assume.
 
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I think the sidings at Barrow have fuelling facilities if that's what you mean?
While I'm no expert, the sidings at Barrow do seem to have more than just stabling.
Although for exams they probably now have to go to Newton Heath rather than cycling through to Heaton
 

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They'd be swapped at Carlisle with fresh units off Neville Hill or Heaton, I'd have thought. The daily mileage shuttling to and from Carlisle wouldn't be too high (there'd be a lot of 'standage' at each end) and 156s can do around 1000 miles per tank.

But yes, it's likely to be a bit of a pain for Control as they'll be needing to do swaps more regularly than the normal unit diagrams assume.
The units are all planned around being shunted across Carlisle anyway so it's quite straightforward to cycle them on a shorter trip, i.e. only to Workington or Whitehaven rather than all the way to Lancaster.
 

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The units are all planned around being shunted across Carlisle anyway so it's quite straightforward to cycle them on a shorter trip, i.e. only to Workington or Whitehaven rather than all the way to Lancaster.

There is several Heaton based 156s "trapped" in south Cumbria/North Lancashire at the moment, looking at real time trains, 156421, 156440, 156469* 156483 and 156485 are unable to move back into Carlisle and the NE as a result of the blockade.

* Just to note 156469 did move to Newton Heath(with 156461 being the replacement) and it was paired with a 150 today on the Rochdale to Clitheroe runs.

From experience of the Cumbrian line being blocked, northern has put ECS paths in for the 156s to get to Carlisle via the WCML and then another 2 or 3 units head the other way to replace them.

Edit: Just to add looking at RTT, 156421/461 are being replaced by 156410/455 from today(Sunday).
 

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There is several Heaton based 156s "trapped" in south Cumbria/North Lancashire at the moment, looking at real time trains, 156421, 156440, 156469* 156483 and 156485 are unable to move back into Carlisle and the NE as a result of the blockade.

* Just to note 156469 did move to Newton Heath(with 156461 being the replacement) and it was paired with a 150 today on the Rochdale to Clitheroe runs.

From experience of the Cumbrian line being blocked, northern has put ECS paths in for the 156s to get to Carlisle via the WCML and then another 2 or 3 units head the other way to replace them.

Edit: Just to add looking at RTT, 156421/461 are being replaced by 156410/455 from today(Sunday).
Indeed there are but the post was talking about Workington.
 

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How do the units at Workinton get fuelled and so forth? I guess there is some contingency being worked out of how the units are cycled through exams from now on.
The units north of the block will go via the Hexham line to Newcastle. Units south of the block can get fuel at Barrow. They will have to go to Newton Heath in Manchester for exams and repairs.
 

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I am still struggling to understand why they can't just clip the points so that all traffic has to go into the bay. On the odd occasion an engineers train is needed, expand the possession then unclip them under that possession. At this stage it's just going to be a lot of people standing around scratching their heads.

At least Whitehaven will get 80%-90% of a train service, instead of the 0% it is currently getting.
I suspect someone from Network Rail may have read stuff like this - and the criticism in the local press. According to Northern, the current process of cutting services at Workington will change to Whitehaven on 11th August: https://www.northernrailway.co.uk/engineering/branstytunnel. Unless sense prevails, the southbound pickup point for the RRB will still be at the bus stop outside Wetherspoons (to be fair, it's a pain turning out of the station approach onto Bransty Row). Which is a longer walk for passengers transferring to the RRB but at least they won't have to navigate the stairs unlike Workington
 

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Is there an update on what is happening?

I am planning on travelling the length of the line on the 20th. Any ideas what my journey will look like?

Thanks!
 

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Is there an update on what is happening?

I am planning on travelling the length of the line on the 20th. Any ideas what my journey will look like?

Thanks!
The timetable as it is today is the likely outcome. Nearly all of the trains between Carlisle and Whitehaven have now been restored, no trains between Whitehaven and Sellafield, and a reduced service between Sellafield and Barrow-in-Furness.
 

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Is there an update on what is happening?

I am planning on travelling the length of the line on the 20th. Any ideas what my journey will look like?

Thanks!
I would still check nearer the time if it were me.
 

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No problem, thank you.

It looks as though there is a replacement bus service between Whitehaven and Sellafield.

Any ideas how long it will take to go from Carlisle to Barrow with this additional change?

Thanks!
 

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No problem, thank you.

It looks as though there is a replacement bus service between Whitehaven and Sellafield.

Any ideas how long it will take to go from Carlisle to Barrow with this additional change?

Thanks!
About four hours.
 

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No problem, thank you.

It looks as though there is a replacement bus service between Whitehaven and Sellafield.

Any ideas how long it will take to go from Carlisle to Barrow with this additional change?

Thanks!
Roughly 3.5 hours, so about an hour longer than the normal time on the direct train.
 

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No problem, thank you.

It looks as though there is a replacement bus service between Whitehaven and Sellafield.

Any ideas how long it will take to go from Carlisle to Barrow with this additional change?

Thanks!
I suppose that would depend upon when you’re travelling. The best way to plan your journey would be via Northern”s app or Realtimetrains.
 

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No problem, thank you.

It looks as though there is a replacement bus service between Whitehaven and Sellafield.

Any ideas how long it will take to go from Carlisle to Barrow with this additional change?

Thanks!
Depending on which trains and bus you catch, it could be up to 4 hours. 1 1/4 hours to Whitehaven, walk to bus stop, 30 mins or so bus to Sellafield then just over an hour to Barrow. There's a bit of a trek to the stop for the RRB at Whitehaven (head to the bus stop outside Wetherspoons and hope the pedestrian lights are being kind)
 

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I'm not sure how much of the information is new, but RAIL magazine has an article about the tunnel closure on its website. Key points I noticed are that "the work may take several months" and that Northern are "looking at options ... to run trains to Corkickle".

Full article here:

A tunnel on the Cumbrian Coast Line is set to be closed for several months after surveys found a section of floor needs strengthening.

The one-kilometre-long (0.6-mile) Bransty Tunnel between Whitehaven and Corkickle has been closed since Friday July 25.

Network Rail (NR) engineers had visited the tunnel to prepare it for major track and drainage renewals. This work was due to start on August 30 and take approximately three weeks.

However, tests to assess weight limits (to ensure the tunnel could cope with the heavy plant and machinery needed for the work) found some areas of the tunnel floor need strengthening.

Northern passenger services south of the tunnel are terminating at Sellafield, while those to the north finish at Whitehaven. Buses replace trains between the two. Northern said it was “looking at the options available to be able to run trains to Corkickle”.
 

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Yes, Josh MacAlister MP for Whitehaven and Workington posted on Facebook yesterday that Northern plan to run to Corkickle from 25th August.

Reported here at Cumbria Crack https://cumbriacrack.com/2025/08/13...-trains-to-run-to-corkickle-later-this-month/

“As it stands, we are working on fitting a temporary buffer stop installation and fast tracking the completion of the required safety validation for the operation of Class 195s, which will allow us to extend the current trains we are operating through Sellafield onto Corkickle from Monday August 25.
 

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Can’t remember if this is the latest thread about Bransty.

BBC reporting that the tunnel will be closed until Easter 2026

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgj1ggvne83o

A railway tunnel will remain closed until spring 2026, Network Rail say.
The Bransty tunnel between Whitehaven and Corkickle on the Cumbrian Coast Line was shut in July after engineers found its floor needed "significant reinforcement".
Replacement buses have been put on and trains have been operating on either side of the closure which followed the discovery of old mine structures during survey work.
Matt Rice, chief operating officer for the train company Northern, apologised for the "frustration" passengers were suffering on a line linking remote communities between Barrow and Carlisle and serving major employers such as Sellafield.
Engineers began scheduled survey work on the 1km (0.6 miles) long section in July ahead of track and drainage upgrades, but then found the tunnel floor needed reinforcement to support the heavy machinery needed for the work.
Network Rail said: "The extent of the work needed means Bransty tunnel, between Whitehaven and Corkickle is expected to be closed until spring 2026.
"The extent of strengthening work needed means the tunnel cannot safely reopen until completion of comprehensive repairs."
 

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tbh, I'm not surprised ...

Sorting out old mine workings is not as easy as it sounds, if, as I suspect, they have collapsed and/or become more interconnected since the flooding resulting from stopping pumping ...
The "just pumping in concrete / grout" solution, as I overheard in a local hospitality venue, may not be all that is needed.

Plus, a permanent solution to the "rusty water" is needed, since the tunnel drains into Bransty Beck and thence to the harbour. Although the present arrangement of silt traps seem to be working ...
 

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That'll be the old mine workings then !
tbh, I'm not surprised ...

Sorting out old mine workings is not as easy as it sounds, if, as I suspect, they have collapsed and/or become more interconnected since the flooding resulting from stopping pumping ...
The "just pumping in concrete / grout" solution, as I overheard in a local hospitality venue, may not be all that is needed.

Plus, a permanent solution to the "rusty water" is needed, since the tunnel drains into Bransty Beck and thence to the harbour. Although the present arrangement of silt traps seem to be working ...
Absolutely. I am not a civil engineer but designed a lot of grouts and polymer modified concretes in my life. I trust the engineers, and this will get sorted but as has been said above, not quite as easy as some may think.
 

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tbh, I'm not surprised ...

Sorting out old mine workings is not as easy as it sounds, if, as I suspect, they have collapsed and/or become more interconnected since the flooding resulting from stopping pumping ...
The "just pumping in concrete / grout" solution, as I overheard in a local hospitality venue, may not be all that is needed.

Plus, a permanent solution to the "rusty water" is needed, since the tunnel drains into Bransty Beck and thence to the harbour. Although the present arrangement of silt traps seem to be working ...
Well if it is the mine workings, it would require an awful lot of concrete!
 

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Well if it is the mine workings, it would require an awful lot of concrete!
unless you can put big blobs of thick grout on top of each other beyond and below the railway tunnel until you have plugged the mine levels, when you can grout the voids under and near the railway line.
Isn't that what they did east of Edinburgh? (- at Lochniddrie or Cockenzie, before diverting the ECML on to the new stable ground )

I understand that Northwich town was similarly doomed until a massive scheme to fill all the salt cavern voids was implemented, when the town stopped subsiding.
 
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Absolutely. I am not a civil engineer but designed a lot of grouts and polymer modified concretes in my life. I trust the engineers, and this will get sorted but as has been said above, not quite as easy as some may think.
I remember there was a mine working found underneath the old Rugby League ground in Wigan when they were starting building a new stand. This would have been mid 1980's I guess. Rumour had it that at least one Club Director was going to resign as they were petrified at the thought of pumping an infinite amount of concrete into the ground and making the club go bankrupt.
 

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You have nailed it with that one example. Likely by now, all the shafts/tunnels/workings are interconnected, and although not requiring an infinite amount of slurry/grout/concrete could end up being absolutely huge amount.
 
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Most of the coal mines in the Whitehaven area were deep but there was an opencast mine where the golf course was built up at Hensingham.
 
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