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I am 'neurospicy' and the prospect of the little grey people forcibly using my personal device to interrupt peaceful social music time with friends I don't see that often is about the most objectionable thing imaginable. Apparently they intentionally want to see how people who might find this distressing react to it, which seems just sadistic. Similar to the issue of people taking batteries out of or not testing smoke alarms, it is bleeding obvious that people wouldn't object to this if you would just think a bit creatively and do it in a way that gives an accurate result but doesn't involve sudden loud noises.

That test a few years ago did make me further consider the already loose relationship I wanted to have with my phone. Whilst there is justifiable fundamental reasoning behind sending mass alerts for life-threatening situations, it also feels like pushing an ideology of treating the screen in your pocket as something you need to be umbilically connected and constantly attentive to. I put mine on flight mode or at least 'do not disturb' whenever I'm working, driving, cycling, running, crafting or doing music practice (and obviously in rehearsals or performances) or if just need a sensory break, and it stays out of my bedroom completely, on flight mode downstairs, which also saves battery. You can't have one hand of government offering us 'sleep hygiene tips' and the other exhorting us to keep our dopamine addiction devices in sight and sound at all times 'just in case'.
 
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Is this a realistic time period, segments every 512ms feels slow
I'm very sorry for this long reply.

The two basic information blocks (Master Information Block - MIB, and SIB1) have a fixed transmit interval defined by the LTE spec. And data transmission for LTE can be broken down into radio frames of length 10ms, with 1ms subframes within each radio frame, and each subframe having two 0.5ms slots.

The MIB is retransmitted on every 4th radio frame (so every 40 ms) with identical duplicates on every radio frame between (meaning the MIB is effectively broadcast on every frame), while the SIB1 is transmitted on every 8th frame with non-identical duplicates on every other subframe for redundancy on the frames in between those 8 (effectively it's retransmitted every 20ms with an incrementing redundancy counter, but will only change every 80ms).

The SIB1 then defines which periodic SI messages are being transmitted by that specific LTE cell, and how often. The SI messages can contain multiple blocks (so you could transmit two SIBs together within one SI message). Within those periodic SIBs is SIB12 where emergency alert messages are sent, as well as other SIBs like SIB5 which defines other LTE frequencies and conditions for the phone to reselect a one of those to connect to.

Each network can pick the periodicity of their SI messages themselves, defined in the SIB1 as an interval of radio frames. Typically most messages will be set to something between 8 and 64 frames. Some networks bunch up their SIBs into one big SI message, while others will send them all out individually. There's no real rhyme or reason and both have their benefits and drawbacks.

There's some leeway built in with another parameter called si-WindowLength which defines a time window in ms which the network must start transmitting the system information message after it has reached the radio frame where it has told a device to listen from.

Within the defined si-WindowLength, the same SI message containing the SIBs can be transmitted multiple times in case a device failed to read it the first time and so that the device doesn't need to wait for the entire si-Periodicity cycle to try again. The SI message and SIB content doesn't necessarily need to be identical, so in the case of a broadcast the cell can send out multiple message segments within the once SI window to improve overall distribution speed. Additionally, as different SIs can have the same periodicity, there's also an offset applied to each message within the list defined in SIB1. For a given si-Periodicity (P) and si-WindowLength (W), the start of the SI window for the n-th message in the list is offset by (n-1)*W.

By combining the periodicity (frequency) and the window length (time slot) you can put together a delivery window, and then the sib-MappingInfo within the SIB1 will tell you what will arrive within that window.

Devices won't actually seek out new SIB1 data on a regular basis. It will whenever a device performs an initial cell search, when returning from out of coverage, or when a device is in "idle mode" (not actually in a data session, call, etc.). Since when a network isn't transmitting a cell broadcast no SIB12 will be defined as broadcasting in the SIB1, devices won't look for it and won't know there is a broadcast occurring.

You might wonder in that case how a device gets the alert then. Well, there's a another message which is sent explicitly to devices rather than as a broadcast called paging messages. These typically carry information like new time-limited authentication credentials to the network (TMSI), but they also were extended in LTE version 9 to add a "cmas-Indication-r9" flag. This flag is present and set to true whenever a commercial mobile alert system (CMAS) broadcast is occurring, and will result in the networking sending Paging messages to devices at effectively every possible opportunity. This lets the device know to check for an updated SIB1 message so it can find the SIB12 message segments so it can piece them all together and so that it can be displayed to a user.

Paging messages are only sent to devices which have attached to the network, and their communication is configured within SIB2.The network tells a device that it should operate with a discontinuous reception cycle of a specified radio frame interval "defaultPagingCycle" (typically rf64). Another field, "nB", dictates how many paging groups exist within the cell. The device can calcuate which group they are part of through their device's identifier for that connection to the network, and can also calculate their "paging opportunity". These two values can be combined so a device can calculate exactly which radio frame to listen for paging in, and even which subframe to listen within, effectively meaning a phone only needs to listen to the network for 1ms every 640ms while in idle mode.

An example of EE's SIB1 during the 2023 test shows they used rf32, so every 320ms. In reality, you might get multiple SIB12 messages within the 10ms radio frame.

Code:
TickTime : 512.949
Exy LTE RRC OTA Packet
 Direction : Downlink
bcch-dl-sch
 message -> c1 -> systemInformationBlockType1
  cellAccessRelatedInfo
   plmn-IdentityList
    [0]
     plmn-Identity
      mcc
       [0] : 2
       [1] : 3
       [2] : 4
      mnc
       [0] : 3
       [1] : 0
     cellReservedForOperatorUse : notReserved
    [1]
     plmn-Identity
      mcc
       [0] : 2
       [1] : 3
       [2] : 4
      mnc
       [0] : 3
       [1] : 2
     cellReservedForOperatorUse : notReserved
   trackingAreaCode : '00101100 01011000'B(11352)
   cellIdentity : '00000101 00000001 01100000 0001'B(5248513)
   cellBarred : notBarred
   intraFreqReselection : allowed
   csg-Indication : false
  cellSelectionInfo
   q-RxLevMin : -64
  p-Max : 23
  freqBandIndicator : 3
  schedulingInfoList
   [0]
    si-Periodicity : rf16
    sib-MappingInfo
   [1]
    si-Periodicity : rf16
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType3
   [2]
    si-Periodicity : rf16
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType4
   [3]
    si-Periodicity : rf32
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType5
   [4]
    si-Periodicity : rf32
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType6
   [5]
    si-Periodicity : rf32
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType7
   [6]
    si-Periodicity : rf32
    sib-MappingInfo
     [0] : sibType12-v920
  si-WindowLength : ms20
  systemInfoValueTag : 0
  nonCriticalExtension
   nonCriticalExtension
    ims-EmergencySupport-r9 : true

The first SI has no SIBs for some reason. Please don't ask me why.

Periodicity 160 ms schedule:

SI MessageschedulingInfoList Index (n)SIBs ContainedWindow Start Time (relative)
SI Message 10None(0 x 20 ms) = 0 ms
SI Message 21SIB3(1 x 20 ms) = 20 ms
SI Message 32SIB4(2 x 20 ms) = 40 ms

Periodicity 320 ms schedule:

SI MessageschedulingInfoList Index (n)SIBs ContainedWindow Start Time (relative)
SI Message 43SIB5(3 x 20 ms) = 60 ms
SI Message 54SIB6(4 x 20 ms) = 80 ms
SI Message 65SIB7(5 x 20 ms) = 100 ms
SI Message 76SIB12(6 x 20 ms) = 120 ms

As you might be able to tell, the two periodicities and their windows will overlap as they are always a multiple of each other, which is why the si-WindowLength exists so that the network can schedule the SIs appropriately.

For the 2023 test on EE, the alert was distributed across 25 segments. The device must receive all segments in order to display the alert, but these don't have to be received in order. The device can piece together the message from all the segments, and knows the total count of segments when it detects a SIB12 with the warningMessageSegment-r9 field set as lastSegment.

As multiple messages could be broadcast at the same time, the messages also have a serialNumber-r9 field to ensure segments from different messages don't get combined. The messageIdentifier-r9 field isn't really an identifier as such, but rather more of a "alert type", and is where the Severe vs Extreme vs "Presidential" distinction is made.

If we assume a phone is in idle mode and has just missed the paging indication, we could end up waiting 640ms for the next cmas-Indication-r9 flag. Paging success rate is somewhere around 92% in most cases, so we can average out that success rate with the periodicity to be about 696ms.

Then, since SIB1 is broadcast every 20ms, we have another ~20ms of latency on top of that.

In a "worst-case" scenario, assuming only one SIB12 was received per period, and a successful delivery/decoding rate of 75% including the network's ability to actually schedule the SI message successfully every 32 frames, we can calculate that the message could take:

320ms * 25 / 0.75 ≈ 10,666ms

Add it all together for about 11.4 seconds.

So yes, it could take up to maybe 12 seconds to successfully receive a full cell broadcast, even at the best of times. It's even worse in Wales where the message is bilingual and uses different message encoding to cater for the Welsh characters. Maybe up to 55 message segments for those, so maybe up to 24 seconds there!

This latency is one of the reasons that the Earthquake and Tsunami Warning System was developed as well with time-critical alerts in mind. In comparison, it is broken down into a primary and secondary notification, with the same paging-based alert system (but called etws-Indication) being used. The type of ETWS alert is sent in a SIB10 primary notification (i.e. Earthquake or Tsunami) which is extremely small and allows for the alert to immediately be triggered on devices, while SIB11 secondary notification contains the textual message which will be shown as an alert and read out by a device when fully received which may take some time.

Separate LTE features allow locking down of a cell for specific types of customer, such as emergency services. These amusingly rely on the end device being compliant and revoking its own access to features of the network if the SIM card does not have the correct access control flag set. This is also automatically used when a site becomes congested during major events.
 
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In a complete break from the general tone of this thread, I haven't received this message before - I think it may have been because my phone was too old, but I'm sufficiently tech-illiterate to not know. I'm looking forward to seeing if I get this one. I've hated sirens from the age of two, so it'll be interesting to say the least. But if it ends up saving me some day, I'm all for it.
 

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I am 'neurospicy' and the prospect of the little grey people forcibly using my personal device to interrupt peaceful social music time with friends I don't see that often is about the most objectionable thing imaginable. Apparently they intentionally want to see how people who might find this distressing react to it, which seems just sadistic. Similar to the issue of people taking batteries out of or not testing smoke alarms, it is bleeding obvious that people wouldn't object to this if you would just think a bit creatively and do it in a way that gives an accurate result but doesn't involve sudden loud noises.

That test a few years ago did make me further consider the already loose relationship I wanted to have with my phone. Whilst there is justifiable fundamental reasoning behind sending mass alerts for life-threatening situations, it also feels like pushing an ideology of treating the screen in your pocket as something you need to be umbilically connected and constantly attentive to. I put mine on flight mode or at least 'do not disturb' whenever I'm working, driving, cycling, running, crafting or doing music practice (and obviously in rehearsals or performances) or if just need a sensory break, and it stays out of my bedroom completely, on flight mode downstairs, which also saves battery. You can't have one hand of government offering us 'sleep hygiene tips' and the other exhorting us to keep our dopamine addiction devices in sight and sound at all times 'just in case'.
To be fair I don't think these tests are in any way to see how people would react. If they were, they would not notify us of it. The test is critical to ensure that the emergency alert system works, without there actually being an emergency. Otherwise what happens if it failed if there were a danger to life situation for thousands of people? Many countries have these in place, including socially recluse ones like Japan. They provide essential information on the possibility of earthquakes, tsunamis and sadly even North Korea launching test missiles in their direction.

Admittedly we don't face anything like as much in the way of natural disaster as somewhere like Japan does, but up until the 1990s - 2000s we did still have emergency alerts, in the form of air raid sirens. I can distinctly remember a test of such when I was a teenager in the 1980s, which was still in Cold War territory. Believe me when I say this, my blood literally ran cold because in those days we didn't have mobiles, digital TV, or email to pre-warn us of it. For a couple of minutes everyone on my street including my family just stared out of the window expecting to see a big flash and the end of things.

So personally speaking, I don't find the idea of a test that we that we all know exactly when it's going to happen, which will tell us it's a test in any way objectionable. If you choose to disable the alerts, or not keep your phone with you that is your right, no-one is going to force you to do otherwise. But in the future, if there is a major disaster in this country then it may just help save a few lives.
 

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To be fair I don't think these tests are in any way to see how people would react. If they were, they would not notify us of it. The test is critical to ensure that the emergency alert system works, without there actually being an emergency. Otherwise what happens if it failed if there were a danger to life situation for thousands of people? Many countries have these in place, including socially recluse ones like Japan. They provide essential information on the possibility of earthquakes, tsunamis and sadly even North Korea launching test missiles in their direction.
The communication about this forwarded to my work email (a .gov address, but which looks like a copy-paste of a general public announcement), specifically says something to the effect of 'we want to test how this affects people who may be distressed by it'

As for an actual emergency; well, I have an EV, so the response to 'you must evacuate NOW' would be 'sure, can you just hold on five hours whilst it charges?' I know I can run 31 miles on a few slices of cake, so my 'disaster preparation' will be carrying cake and wearing my running kit wherever I go, which are excellent lifestyle choices IMHO. I'll be annoyed if Strava goes down though. Joking aside, in the few 'minor emergency' situations I've been around I've always been the one who stays calm and fixes things; nothing will make me panic, I can blag decent enough first aid and can spot hazards before they become a problem.
Stop press: just seen a misleading headline 'Motorists face £200 fine if emergency test alert activates whilst driving'. That's misinformation, only illegal if you look at/touch the phone in response.
 

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As for an actual emergency; well, I have an EV, so the response to 'you must evacuate NOW' would be 'sure, can you just hold on five hours whilst it charges?'

To be fair, queues at petrol stations in such circumstances (if they're open at all) are likely to be longer than the time taken to put a sufficient charge in an EV! :)
 

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The communication about this forwarded to my work email (a .gov address, but which looks like a copy-paste of a general public announcement), specifically says something to the effect of 'we want to test how this affects people who may be distressed by it'
Well then there appears to be a breakdown in communications somewhere, as this official line (at least as I understand it as a civil servant) is as follows:


Why is this test happening?

The Emergency Alerts system serves a crucial purpose in keeping the public safe. It's used to warn people when there's a danger to life nearby, including severe weather events like storms or flooding. Since the first national test in April 2023, the system has sent five real alerts during major storms when lives were genuinely at risk.

Regular testing ensures the system continues to work correctly and reaches as many people as possible when it's needed most. Just like testing smoke alarms or practising fire drills, these tests help ensure the system will work effectively during a real life-threatening emergency.

As for an actual emergency; well, I have an EV, so the response to 'you must evacuate NOW' would be 'sure, can you just hold on five hours whilst it charges?' I know I can run 31 miles on a few slices of cake, so my 'disaster preparation' will be carrying cake and wearing my running kit wherever I go, which are excellent lifestyle choices IMHO. I'll be annoyed if Strava goes down though. Joking aside, in the few 'minor emergency' situations I've been around I've always been the one who stays calm and fixes things; nothing will make me panic, I can blag decent enough first aid and can spot hazards before they become a problem.
Unfortunately in incidents of immediate danger, say for example a flooding situation, sitting around waiting for your car to charge may not be an option. I used to live in a river valley that had a major flood in 2015, and the water levels increased at frighting speed. At it's peak the river had washed dozens of cars, shipping crates and a couple of buses away, that's how dangerous things became. Having an alert for people in immediate danger would not have been an bad idea, especially if levels increase during the night and where evacuation routes may be limited (often the case in river valley). This is just an example, but there are plenty of scenarios where people may need to be evacuated at speed, for which this system has and will be used.
 

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Unfortunately in incidents of immediate danger, say for example a flooding situation, sitting around waiting for your car to charge may not be an option. I used to live in a river valley that had a major flood in 2015, and the water levels increased at frighting speed. At it's peak the river had washed dozens of cars, shipping crates and a couple of buses away, that's how dangerous things became. Having an alert for people in immediate danger would not have been an bad idea, especially if levels increase during the night and where evacuation routes may be limited (often the case in river valley). This is just an example, but there are plenty of scenarios where people may need to be evacuated at speed, for which this system has and will be used.

Indeed.

It's in effect a part replacement from broadcasts on TV and radio (given that many people no longer consume those in their traditional form on a daily basis) and an improvement over going round knocking on doors. It's perhaps more surprising that it's taken so long to get something like that set up!

I'm not a massive fan of the unpleasant siren sound, no reason it needed to be like that (indeed I see no reason it couldn't respect vibrate-only settings on a phone, thus avoiding the "covert phone" issue) but I believe it's just a recording of a sound originally used on emergency TV broadcasts in the US, so as with many IT things the US got to specify such things. And the US does like drama when it comes to such things.
 

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Well then there appears to be a breakdown in communications somewhere, as this official line (at least as I understand it as a civil servant) is as follows:





Unfortunately in incidents of immediate danger, say for example a flooding situation, sitting around waiting for your car to charge may not be an option. I used to live in a river valley that had a major flood in 2015, and the water levels increased at frighting speed. At it's peak the river had washed dozens of cars, shipping crates and a couple of buses away, that's how dangerous things became. Having an alert for people in immediate danger would not have been an bad idea, especially if levels increase during the night and where evacuation routes may be limited (often the case in river valley). This is just an example, but there are plenty of scenarios where people may need to be evacuated at speed, for which this system has and will be used.
I was joking about charging - I never let it get below 20% so we'd have at least 30 miles range for unforeseen movement. Serious about the running shoes though: I am a sub-3 marathoner and can touch 15mph in a sprint, practically I'd likely get further away faster than the panic-heads in rattleboxes jamming the limited exit roads from this city. Alternatively I'll always trust a bike more, so just abandon the car and claim the insurance, albeit I live well above the height the river could ever flood too - which here at least it never does anyway as there's a huge area of park and water meadows nearby to soak up a theoretical flood (further downstream businesses are not so lucky). Mentioned I'm neurospicy which ironically means I've already bounced around all the things that could possibly go wrong and have some ideas how to avoid or get away from them.

I've just found the message from the council - so we can assume the wording has been sanctioned - which reads: 'Please be aware of this as an individual as well as whether this may affect you when working with others in the community. The government wants a widespread campaign to ensure people are aware of the test. This includes those who may be vulnerable or distressed by this type of alert.'

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I'm not a massive fan of the unpleasant siren sound, no reason it needed to be like that (indeed I see no reason it couldn't respect vibrate-only settings on a phone, thus avoiding the "covert phone" issue) but I believe it's just a recording of a sound originally used on emergency TV broadcasts in the US, so as with many IT things the US got to specify such things. And the US does like drama when it comes to such things.
Right? Why not a string quartet - most people are so unused to classical music it would get their attention just as well and be a calming influence. I would bet there are some chair-warmers in an office who are scratching their heads wondering why people always seem to panic after a loud unexpected sound.
 
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In the hope of covering two regular topics in one place, I wonder if they’ve considered using this for out of date railcard reminders? o_O :D
 

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I was joking about charging - I never let it get below 20% so we'd have at least 30 miles range for unforeseen movement. Serious about the running shoes though: I am a sub-3 marathoner and can touch 15mph in a sprint, practically I'd likely get further away faster than the panic-heads in rattleboxes jamming the limited exit roads from this city. Alternatively I'll always trust a bike more, so just abandon the car and claim the insurance, albeit I live well above the height the river could ever flood too - which it never does anyway as it's a chalk stream and I'm in the tidal section with a huge area of park and water meadows nearby to soak up a theoretical flood. Mentioned I'm neurospicy which ironically means I've already bounced around all the things that could possibly go wrong and have some ideas how to avoid or get away from them.

I've just found the message from the council - so we can assume the wording has been sanctioned - which reads: 'Please be aware of this as an individual as well as whether this may affect you when working with others in the community. The government wants a widespread campaign to ensure people are aware of the test. This includes those who may be vulnerable or distressed by this type of alert.'
That doesn't say that the reason for the test is to judge vulnerable people's reponses though, just that they want to make sure they are aware of it and not to be unnecessarily concerned.
 

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Admittedly we don't face anything like as much in the way of natural disaster as somewhere like Japan does, but up until the 1990s - 2000s we did still have emergency alerts, in the form of air raid sirens. I can distinctly remember a test of such when I was a teenager in the 1980s, which was still in Cold War territory. Believe me when I say this, my blood literally ran cold because in those days we didn't have mobiles, digital TV, or email to pre-warn us of it. For a couple of minutes everyone on my street including my family just stared out of the window expecting to see a big flash and the end of things.
Surely it was well publicised through the local media - which was still actually good in those days - what the test schedule for the sirens was, so nobody would panic when they did test them? It was certainly known locally when they were going to test them when I was a kid.

Incidentally - I wouldn't have a problem with them re-instating the Carter Sirens for alerts. It was a simple system that everyone knew would only be used in a genuine emergency. While it's limited in that it can't say what, it could be done as a cue for "put the news on now".
 

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Incidentally - I wouldn't have a problem with them re-instating the Carter Sirens for alerts. It was a simple system that everyone knew would only be used in a genuine emergency. While it's limited in that it can't say what, it could be done as a cue for "put the news on now".

That doesn't make sense for loads of reasons. If there's a mobile phone in pretty much every person's pocket, and there is, why not make use of that? It also means no separate network to maintain - just software.

The problem with this appears essentially just to be the siren sound, and I'd agree that's unnecessary, the standard ringtone/vibrate would do, but the system is US designed and led, and the US loves brash stuff like that particularly when it comes to anything to do with emergencies - have you seen their fire engines?
 

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The problem with this appears essentially just to be the siren sound, and I'd agree that's unnecessary, the standard ringtone/vibrate would do, but the system is US designed and led, and the US loves brash stuff like that particularly when it comes to anything to do with emergencies - have you seen their fire engines?
I've seen them on TV, yes - literally all the bells and whistles...

As regards the siren sound on the phones, is it like an emergency vehicle sound? Maybe they could change it to the Carter Siren sound... ;)
 

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Here's an example of what we get in the U.S (this one received a short while ago):

This is an important message from NY Alert
HEADLINE: Alert-Sex Offender relocation notice

DESCRIPTION: We are notifying you of a move into/out of the area you specified. NUGENE AMBERS has moved from NYS DOCCS Adirondack Correctional Facility 240 Ray Brook Road, Ray Brook, NY 12977 to 1 WARDS ISLAND, NEW YORK, NY 10035

INSTRUCTIONS: Please access the Sex Offender Sub-directory from the Division of Criminal Justice Services website by clicking on the following link for additional details for this move. Thank you. http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/SomsSUBDirectory/offenderDetails.jsp?offenderid=59222

Issued By: NYS-DCJS

They're not always "pushed" in the same manner as the UK one due on Sunday, but a lot of them are sent using the emergency messaging method (missing children being the main one).
 

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So anyone miss out on the alert this time (apart from those that opted out obviously!)?
 

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Well, I didn't get the message when connected via EE Wifi Calling, presumably because I wasn't connected via a cellular base station (I am in a no-signal area). I was guessing that would be the case.
 

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How many people had 'coffee machines will get the test alert' on their bingo card for this afternoon? :lol:

@liamg.dev on Bluesky:

I wasn’t expecting my coffee machine to also have the emergency alert test and siren, but at least I know I’ll be safe during the 5 minutes I’m stood there each morning.
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The future certainly is here!

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So anyone miss out on the alert this time (apart from those that opted out obviously!)?
I wanted to hear/see it, but forgot to change the settings. So I changed the settings at 15.11 and it came through straight away.
How many people had 'coffee machines will get the test alert' on their bingo card for this afternoon? :lol:

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Funny, but Alexa didn't tell me anything.
 

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I didn’t hear a thing from my switched off 4G ‘phone and there isn’t a message on it. I was rather more concerned whether the new alarm-radio, set as a trial at 15.00, would go off as that would mean that I had b.ed up the setting of the alarm. Nothing from that either.
 

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My partner and I both got the alert, but her phone (on O2) was about 4 seconds after mine (EE) despite being in the same room and connected to the same wifi.

It was ruddy loud, that’s for sure
 

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Failure again. Arrived ~15 mins late on many O2 devices, if I remember correctly this is very similar to the last occurrence. On my device, I was curious as to why it didn't go off - so I turned it off and on and only then did it work. So much for being used in an actual emergency...
 

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How many people had 'coffee machines will get the test alert' on their bingo card for this afternoon? :lol:



The future certainly is here!

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Presumably the coffee machine got its alert over wifi - so why didn't my phone? (see previous post - I am connected by EE Wifi Calling because no cellular radio signalk)
 

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Presumably the coffee machine got its alert over wifi - so why didn't my phone? (see previous post - I am connected by EE Wifi Calling because no cellular radio signalk)
It cannot receive an alert via WiFi. The coffee machine probably uses a common Android device as a base, which has a cellular modem. Even if it's not connected to a network and has no SIM card, it can still receive the alert.
 

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It isnt sent over Wifi so thats not relevent.

Ah right. Fair enough but the point I was making was that everything else was equal, so for whatever reason O2 took a little longer

Come the apocalypse I’m going to enjoy my 4 extra seconds
 

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Put my phone on mute & put on the do not disturb function.

Heard diddly squat

Others in the house who were napping got a rude awakening
 
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