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SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

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Last time 5701 and 5702 were seen on trainlogger was may. I wouldn't be surprised if they are both being stripped at Wimbledon.

Annoying as they are both units i still need.
5701 is at Bournemouth for bearing work.
5702 is split. 1 car at Brodies, 3 cars at Wimbledon.
I would think they would both see more use after their repairs.

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Could anyone tell me the current status of 5702, 5869 and 5910?
(and I believe 5871, 5872, 5903 and 5904 are in service?)
5702 I have covered already, 5869 is at Eastleigh. I think that is close to being completed and coming back into traffic. 5910 also has one car at Brodies and 3 laid up at Wimbledon.
 
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5702 I have covered already, 5869 is at Eastleigh. I think that is close to being completed and coming back into traffic. 5910 also has one car at Brodies and 3 laid up at Wimbledon.
Thank you! Hopefully they'll all return to service once work is completed.

In relation to the other units I mentioned, 5871, 5872 and 5903 are in service today so they're fine. Looking at trainlogger, 5904 was spotted quite regularly until 12th June, and then only once since on 28th June, at Wimbledon Depot. Does that mean it's not currently in service?
 

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I see so a place to keep those units temporarily
It effectively was a storage space I suppose as some locomotives remained there 20 odd years.

However it was a scrapyard and was never intended to be a temporary storage area.

The reason 200 odd steam locomotives were saved wasn't due to design or a soft spot for preservationists or anything like that. It was purely down to circumstance and luck.

British railways were changing in the 1960s. As well as steam locomotives being phased out, so too were traditional wagon hauled trains and marshaling yards.

Woodham's scrapyard had a load of wagons to scrap as well as locomotives. Locomotives were difficult and timely to cut up, whereas wagons were cheap and quick to cut up. The idea was to get through all the wagons and make money quickly, leaving the steam locomotives as a kind of retirement nest egg for a later date.

It just so happened that this gave preservation groups enough time to raise funds and save their chosen locomotive. As long as they met the scrap value, he was happy to sell. However, much like some modern groups who set up crowdfunders that raise nothing, there were groups then who appeared to never look like raising money yet expected a locomotive to indefinitely be kept aside for them. He did cut up some engines to sharpen the minds of other groups...

This was in contrast to other scrapyards, who cut up engines straight away.

I believe there was a scrapyard in the midlands somewhere that was similarly important for diesel preservation. It specialised in removing asbestos, so there were plenty of scrap diesel locomotives available who had already had their asbestos removed.
 

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It effectively was a storage space I suppose as some locomotives remained there 20 odd years.

However it was a scrapyard and was never intended to be a temporary storage area.

The reason 200 odd steam locomotives were saved wasn't due to design or a soft spot for preservationists or anything like that. It was purely down to circumstance and luck.

British railways were changing in the 1960s. As well as steam locomotives being phased out, so too were traditional wagon hauled trains and marshaling yards.

Woodham's scrapyard had a load of wagons to scrap as well as locomotives. Locomotives were difficult and timely to cut up, whereas wagons were cheap and quick to cut up. The idea was to get through all the wagons and make money quickly, leaving the steam locomotives as a kind of retirement nest egg for a later date.

It just so happened that this gave preservation groups enough time to raise funds and save their chosen locomotive. As long as they met the scrap value, he was happy to sell. However, much like some modern groups who set up crowdfunders that raise nothing, there were groups then who appeared to never look like raising money yet expected a locomotive to indefinitely be kept aside for them. He did cut up some engines to sharpen the minds of other groups...

This was in contrast to other scrapyards, who cut up engines straight away.

I believe there was a scrapyard in the midlands somewhere that was similarly important for diesel preservation. It specialised in removing asbestos, so there were plenty of scrap diesel locomotives available who had already had their asbestos removed.
i see quite complex
 
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Do we know roughly when it might be back in service?

And those with cars in Kilmarnock?
No idea. And I’m not going to ask in case I get told to do it myself!

Same with the Brodies cars. I normally find out when a) someone Scottish excitedly posts a picture of one on the road or b) part of the car park is blocked off for the transport to manoeuvre in advance of it arriving.

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Is 455901 still active as I haven’t seen it showing on services recently
Needs D exam and wheel bearing(s). Queue of units in front of it.
 

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5Q76 seems to be taking the 455s from Lydney tommorow to the scrap man in Newport.
 
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Any ideas on the whereabouts of 5913 , it hasn't been seen on trainlogger since mid January. Much longer than all other extant 455s.
 

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Any ideas on the whereabouts of 5913 , it hasn't been seen on trainlogger since mid January. Much longer than all other extant 455s.
I believe 5913 is still at Bournemouth TMD awaiting the return of one vehicle from Kilmarnock.

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Assuming the allocations to RTT are correct, then this mornings 2D09 0720 Wimbledon to Epsom was the first passenger train since last September for 5871 and a return to service after a lengthy absence for 5868

Travelled on 5868 yesterday, 2C54 from Reading.
 

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Is there an issue with 458s that is limiting their availability? I've spotted 8-455 vice 458s on 2S diagrams all week, which obviously isn't ideal as Virginia Water platform 3 gets skipped on multiple services! There's also been at least two 4-455 vice 458 on Windsor services this week, usually on the 2U16 diagram (which needless to say got extremely overcrowded!)
 

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Is there an issue with 458s that is limiting their availability? I've spotted 8-455 vice 458s on 2S diagrams all week, which obviously isn't ideal as Virginia Water platform 3 gets skipped on multiple services! There's also been at least two 4-455 vice 458 on Windsor services this week, usually on the 2U16 diagram (which needless to say got extremely overcrowded!)
I wondered this too.! At least one service the other day was 8-455, stopped in p3 at vir, however the departure boards still showed the service, and people were just stood on the platform pressing the door buttons that obviously weren't going to open.!!
A phrase springs to mind, ending with the word brewery.
 

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Is there an issue with 458s that is limiting their availability? I've spotted 8-455 vice 458s on 2S diagrams all week, which obviously isn't ideal as Virginia Water platform 3 gets skipped on multiple services! There's also been at least two 4-455 vice 458 on Windsor services this week, usually on the 2U16 diagram (which needless to say got extremely overcrowded!)
They don't appear to be the most reliable trains. The 458/5s were always SWT/SWR's most unreliable trains in any case.
 

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They don't appear to be the most reliable trains. The 458/5s were always SWT/SWR's most unreliable trains in any case.
Yet when they were 4 car /0s before, they won awards for their reliability! I think they have probably struggled with the heat this week, as they overheat even when it's not 30 degrees, plus we know 2000s era Alstom trains are known for having a few thermal issues :lol: :lol:
 

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so they’re like a company for preservation?
The Barry (South Wales) scrapyard of Dai Woodham is long gone. Also gone, is Vic Berry's Leicester scrapyard which, in the 1980s, was famous for stacking bodies of locos, DMUs, coaches and EMUs in a pyramid-like structure.

Dai Woodham's Barry scrapyard dealt with other scrap, too - one documented source I have read, was that many 4-wheel wagons were processed at the scrapyard. Wagons are much easier and quicker to process; and the wooden bodied ones were literally incinerated so their metal chassis could be cut up once the wooden body was totally burned. Therefore, the locos lingered longer than the wagons.
 

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The Barry (South Wales) scrapyard of Dai Woodham is long gone. Also gone, is Vic Berry's Leicester scrapyard which, in the 1980s, was famous for stacking bodies of locos, DMUs, coaches and EMUs in a pyramid-like structure.

Dai Woodham's Barry scrapyard dealt with other scrap, too - one documented source I have read, was that many 4-wheel wagons were processed at the scrapyard. Wagons are much easier and quicker to process; and the wooden bodied ones were literally incinerated so their metal chassis could be cut up once the wooden body was totally burned. Therefore, the locos lingered longer than the wagons.
very detailed, thanks
 

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Little bit confused about the recent scrap moves.
Someone on here suggested 850 & 905 were the 2 that went to Lydney at the end of June but then I have seen a post elsewhere suggesting 857 and 905 did a Wimbledon to Newport funeral run on 02/07.

Could anybody clarify please?
 
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