brad465
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The unit has formally been named "Chris Green, after the founder of NSE, who was there with Lord Hendy to reveal it:
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Mikey C
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A fitting person to name the unit after, seeing that the Networker was very much a NSE baby.
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Is this the first 465 to have a name?
Some grabs from the event, including the decals and the naming etc.
The MD Steve White had said this will appear at the Greatest Gathering event in Derby and there will be an open day at Ashford depot date tbc sometime in August.
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The MD Steve White had said this will appear at the Greatest Gathering event in Derby and there will be an open day at Ashford depot date tbc sometime in August.
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Just to note the open day at Ashford, is likely only for friends/family for SE. The Greatest Gathering will see the unit be available for the viewing public.
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DanNCL
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It was dragged under OHLE back from Doncaster after repaint. I don’t know if 465s still have booked work there but theoretically one could encounter OHLE at Ashford too.
brad465
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Personally I don't think it's that big a deal. Also it must only have been early on that this didn't exist, as the 465s that had yellow with NSE blue as a Connex livery had a cant line by the looks of things.
A shame the windows frames weren't painted. I didn't realise Cannon Street still had NSE branding around columns.
Is Charing Cross the same? If I recall both were rebuilt around the turn of the early 1990s.
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Is Charing Cross the same? If I recall both were rebuilt around the turn of the early 1990s.
Southeastern officially reveal Networker in Network Southeast livery - Murky Depths
Southeastern have officially unveiled their Networker repainted in original livery and named after Network Southeast's Chris Green
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I hope that clicker clock made that classic sound too!
Islineclear3_1
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Splendid paint job - looks almost like new!
There was another 9 series which carried a name for a while. 'Remembrance ' springs to mind, but I'm not 100% on that! Someone here must know!
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I agree, the painters have done a really good job on it.
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Class15
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On it now. Just left Victoria.
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do we know if there are any scheduled moves to Newport likely for this coming week?
brad465
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There are no drags in the week ahead visible from Ely to Newport. There's this move to Wolverton on Tuesday, but not sure what this is:
Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0309 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 04/03/2025
Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0309 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 04/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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thank you - I am after 465905 and am keen not to miss!There are no drags in the week ahead visible from Ely to Newport. There's this move to Wolverton on Tuesday, but not sure what this is:
Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0309 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 04/03/2025
Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0309 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 04/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Class15
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Reported in the 175 thread that it’s two of those.There are no drags in the week ahead visible from Ely to Newport. There's this move to Wolverton on Tuesday, but not sure what this is:
Realtime Trains | 7Q70 0309 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 04/03/2025
Real-time train running information for 7Q70 0309 departure from Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 04/03/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
Robin Edwards
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Yes - 175001 & 175003 apparently. An early run. Had it been a bit later I would have gone out for a look see.
When are we expecting news on the tender award for Networker replacement?
Some thought it'd be when the paint job was unveiled. At the Spending Review? Greatest Gathering? Nothing and the Networkers given life extension for 5-10 years?
If so that take them into their 40s and about the same lifespan as the 455s. If a tender is announced probably around 5 years to introduce (assuming no 701-like disaster) and most will be around 38 years of age when scrapped.
I still think the govt won't be keen on replacement. Deficits are still massive, borrowing costs much higher than the splurge of new stock in the 2010s and now military spending will be shooting up. New trains and increased lease costs? Not a priority even if existing trains are hard to keep going.
Some thought it'd be when the paint job was unveiled. At the Spending Review? Greatest Gathering? Nothing and the Networkers given life extension for 5-10 years?
If so that take them into their 40s and about the same lifespan as the 455s. If a tender is announced probably around 5 years to introduce (assuming no 701-like disaster) and most will be around 38 years of age when scrapped.
I still think the govt won't be keen on replacement. Deficits are still massive, borrowing costs much higher than the splurge of new stock in the 2010s and now military spending will be shooting up. New trains and increased lease costs? Not a priority even if existing trains are hard to keep going.
You won't hear anything about it for a number of years. I wouldn't expect the new trains to be in service until the 2030s.
With plenty already withdrawn, there should be lots to harvest for spares. Will they last the 43 years that the Bulleid EPBs managed?
Rumour suggests end of the year if all goes well.
That is pretty much what SE said at the Charing Cross event, that they hope the procurement exercise will conclude this year and then to submit a business case to HM Treasury.
You forget that the Secretary of State for Transport has many connections in South East Metro land…