Swr would not have a problem retaining guards if it wasnt for god awful fact you need to wait about 18 months before you get the full salary as a new guard. Hopefully labour will come in and fix this then maybe these extra trains can run!
These are the type of issues the unions should really be focusing on....
Yes, I saw that heading towards Windsor from Ashford this morning. Looks like it is being swapped later though as only that round trip appeared on journey check as a short form. I see the 07:53 Windsor to Waterloo was already 7 minutes down by Whitton and skipped Twickenham and Richmond.
The Windsor lines have been rubbish so far this week. My usual train that started from Reading yesterday morning was late for unknown reasons and managed to get later and later during the journey.
Funny how just a few weeks ago people here were asking if the rollout would speed up and others would respond “well it can’t get any slower”
SWR never fail to disappoint in this respect. I suppose the natural next step is to withdraw what few diagrams are managing to operate. Then the circle will be complete ready for handover over to DfT Operator to try to sort out the trail of destruction left by FirstGroup and MTR.
Nothing would surprise me at this point..!
You are right there, guilty as charged! Somehow I managed to over estimate how competent SWR are, which is pretty amazing really.
The Sheppoerton diagram that starts 2H08 (0543 teddington- Waterloo) is also 2x455 this morning (the blue/grey one).
Swapped out after one round trip for 701039 (which had worked the morning Shepperton via Richmond diagram)
So the train will not stop when it will inconvenience the most passengers.
What….?? Talk about moving backwards… I thought that was an idea of the past
Welcome to the thread and thanks for this very interesting first post!
701/5s are destined for single or split work. Similar to some of the 458/4 plans which went down the drain. Originally it was planned for 458/4s to bring back four trains per hour to Epsom, and split and one to Dorking and one to Guildford. It seems likely, according to my sources, that /5s will be used for this as well as other double work
Hi, as I've explained this isn't possible at certain stations due to visibility and short platform issues.
Cheers, I've spoken to so many Metro Guards who are commercialising or even moving to driving due to these changes...
Sounds like the perfect storm is brewing. I foresee an upcoming crisis
Interesting reading.
What does worry me is late night services for guards. It could be extremely dangerous with drunk/disorderly passengers.
I agree, they don't have short platforms for Passengers but as the announcements say they do as the rear cab doors overhang the platform.
Yes the suburban side can -certainly the suburban platforms have been able to accommodate 10 coach trains for a number of years as you said to accommodate the 455 ×2, 456 x1 formations.
Would it make a difference if everything came to a head and there was a crisis? Or given that SWR have one foot out the door they just don't care anymore and nothing will change
Thanks, as I thought.
Or they should all have been built as 5-cars in the first place as that would avoid the problem? Whatever, the entire project is an utter fiasco from start to finish (assuming there is a finish…).
Is that the logical use for the 5-cars, then?
Whilst yes on the Wimbledon side most if not all platforms would take 455/456 combinations; due to the differencing placement of the 701 rear cab doors, they overhang the platform at certain stations.
