National Express Coaches Discussion

[Martin1988]

Thanks to those who have taken the time to respond. Its a real shame NX don't have more regular services to places like Stoke but the reasons for them not opting to do so sadly make sense. Presumably its a similar reason as to why Derby and Chesterfield aren't served as much if at all en route to Leeds?

I remember once riding the old Service 538 (Coventry to Inverness I think) as far as Manchester when it was being duped. I went on the dupe which called in at Stoke en-route to Manchester. Seem to remember the on board loo being locked, being really desparate and having to wait until Stoke before the driver came and unlocked it.

 

[H&I]

How often do other coaches run on National Express services? I spotted YX64 WCM, a Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite coach with Stagecoach Yorkshire, on the 560 at Golders Green. I assume that the coach is substituting for a faulty Caetano Levante.

 

[Deerfold]

How often do other coaches run on National Express services? I spotted YX64 WCM, a Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite coach with Stagecoach Yorkshire, on the 560 at Golders Green. I assume that the coach is substituting for a faulty Caetano Levante.

Duplicates are fairly common, especially on Fridays and Sundays.

I used to get a coach from Nottingham to Leeds on a Friday evening around 7pm several times a year. There was almost always a duplicate which missed out the intermediate stops and didn't continue to Bradford, saving around 20 minutes and letting me get home an hour earlier. Often both the duplicate and original were full or nearly full.

A couple of times I've had a duplicate on the 465 to London which just ran Leeds to London with the disadvantage (for those not heading home )of arriving about an hour earlier.

 

[Smethwickian]

How often do other coaches run on National Express services? I spotted YX64 WCM, a Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite coach with Stagecoach Yorkshire, on the 560 at Golders Green. I assume that the coach is substituting for a faulty Caetano Levante.

As well as on dupes and event services, non-livery coaches can turn up as breakdown cover or because an operator has too many NX vehicles off-road for other reasons such as maintenance and accidents. As long as it is accessible in line with regulations.

 

[Martin1988]

There used to be a wide range of services which were regularly worked with non-National Express vehicles- mainly journeys that operated as extras at the weekend or which were seasonal only. However about 10-15 years ago they seemed to start to get phased out with the services concerned either being withdrawn or passing to more regular operators using full NX spec vehicles.

As far as known there very few if any such workings nowadays.

 

[Silver Cobra]

How often do other coaches run on National Express services? I spotted YX64 WCM, a Volvo B11RT Plaxton Elite coach with Stagecoach Yorkshire, on the 560 at Golders Green. I assume that the coach is substituting for a faulty Caetano Levante.

Interesting to see that's where one of Stagecoach East's (Bedford depot) former X5 coaches has landed up. I thought they were either sent up to Scotland for City Link services or to Plymouth for the Falcon a few years ago. Guess they are now surplus to requirement for those duties, hence appearing here with National Express.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

Indeed you are correct,the 806 did go from Penzance to Aberdeen as I made that journey myself.

It was the longest route on the NX network at the time,( late 80's)

Travelling to Penzance from London Victoria on the 2330 overnight 404 arriving in Penzance about 8 am.

Leaving Penzance at 1320 and arriving at Aberdeen Guild Street bus station at 11 am the following morning.

I would then leave Aberdeen at 1800 the same day arriving back in Penzance at 1600 the next day.

Then catching the 2040 overnight 404 back to london Victoria arriving about 0630 the next morning.

What a great trip !

Wow I didn't know a service like that existed!!!

I'm guessing likely a Leyland Leopard or Leyland Tiger.

Which route did the 806 go via just out of curiosity?

 

[Dfatcontroller]

Interesting to see that's where one of Stagecoach East's (Bedford depot) former X5 coaches has landed up. I thought they were either sent up to Scotland for City Link services or to Plymouth for the Falcon a few years ago. Guess they are now surplus to requirement for those duties, hence appearing here with National Express.

According to the Driver of the coach on Facebook, the booked coach had a problem and needed an engineer whilst the spare Levante was found to have a nail sticking out the tyre. Hence the Elite being pressed into service as a last resort.

 

[cnjb8]

Interesting to see that's where one of Stagecoach East's (Bedford depot) former X5 coaches has landed up. I thought they were either sent up to Scotland for City Link services or to Plymouth for the Falcon a few years ago. Guess they are now surplus to requirement for those duties, hence appearing here with National Express.

This one did go for use on Falcon but has been replaced by surplus Elite interdecks from Megabus

 

[JGurney]

Why has there been this decline in services, I wonder ? Rail hasn't improved and is certainly not cheap..

I don't have much data available, but based on what I do have, rail has become relatively faster and the price gap between the two has got smaller.

Basing purely on recollections of journeys from the mid 1980's into the 1990's compared with today:

- in 1983 getting a daytime coach from London to Penzance plus paying to stay the night at the Youth Hostel there was approx half the cost of going seated on the Night Riviera, with a student railcard and booked weeks in advance. I just looked for fares for Fri 17th Feb (well ahead) and see seated on the Night Riviera with 16-25 railcard is £33, while the 08:30 coach is £23 and a YH bed is also £22, so today the coach + YH would cost 30% more than the overnight train, when in 1983 it was about half the price.

- from 1992 to 1998 I made numerous London - Middlesbrough journeys. I recall that the coach fare was about one-fifth of the cheapest rail fare available. The coach journey was timetabled as 4h50m and ran non-stop, apart from pulling into a service station and briefly stopping by the fuel pumps for a driver change. Looking now for journeys on the 10th Jan, the fastest non-overnight coach journey is now 6h20m, some take longer going via Leeds, and costs about £14, while the cheapest rail fare going is £33 for a 2h50m journey (faster than the train in 1992 when 3h15m - 3h30m was more common). So the coach fare is now 40% of the cheapest train fare, when it was about 20% before, and the coach is now slower while the train is faster.

 

[davehsug]

Thanks to those who have taken the time to respond. Its a real shame NX don't have more regular services to places like Stoke but the reasons for them not opting to do so sadly make sense. Presumably its a similar reason as to why Derby and Chesterfield aren't served as much if at all en route to Leeds?

I remember once riding the old Service 538 (Coventry to Inverness I think) as far as Manchester when it was being duped. I went on the dupe which called in at Stoke en-route to Manchester. Seem to remember the on board loo being locked, being really desparate and having to wait until Stoke before the driver came and unlocked it.

Stoke really has been cut out of the NX routes. In times gon by any lengthy wait on Hanley bus station would have seen a coach or 2 coming and going, now there's nothing. It's particularly disappointing, because bus links to nearby(ish) major towns & cities are non-existant. Places like Manchester, Derby, Wolverhampton. would almost definitely be served from any other city this size, but we have nothing.

 

[Titfield]

I don't have much data available, but based on what I do have, rail has become relatively faster and the price gap between the has two got smaller.

Basing purely on recollections of journeys from the mid 1980's into the 1990's compared with today:

- in 1983 getting a daytime coach from London to Penzance plus paying to stay the night at the Youth Hostel there was approx half the cost of going seated on the Night Riviera, with a student railcard and booked weeks in advance. I just looked for fares for Fri 17th Feb (well ahead) and see seated on the Night Riviera with 16-25 railcard is £33, while the 08:30 coach is £23 and a YH bed is also £22, so today the coach + YH would cost 30% more than the overnight train, when in 1983 it was about half the price.

- from 1992 to 1998 I made numerous London - Middlesbrough journeys. I recall that the coach fare was about one-fifth of the cheapest rail fare available. The coach journey was timetabled as 4h50m and ran non-stop, apart from pulling into a service station and briefly stopping by the fuel pumps for a driver change. Looking now for journeys on the 10th Jan, the fastest non-overnight coach journey is now 6h20m, some take longer going via Leeds, and costs about £14, while the cheapest rail fare going is £33 for a 2h50m journey (faster than the train in 1992 when 3h15m - 3h30m was more common). So the coach fare is now 40% of the cheapest train fare, when it was about 20% before, and the coach is now slower while the train is faster.

Yes. Some of the advance rail fares now available are so much closer to the coach fares now being charged that it encourages switching from coach to rail. There has also been a considerable increase in railcards which now seem to cover a much wider section of the population in fact virtually ever market sector that coach normally attracts on cost grounds.

 

[Smethwickian]

National Express is expected to cancel all services to/from West and South Wales and most services from Bristol from late tonight until around noon tomorrow due to Red weather warning of potentially dangerous wind speeds. Further details to be announced on website shortly and a mass email to passengers is imminent. Passengers can claim a refund or amend their ticket to a later date.

 

[WibbleWobble]

National Express is expected to cancel all services to/from West and South Wales and most services from Bristol from late tonight until around noon tomorrow due to Red weather warning of potentially dangerous wind speeds. Further details to be announced on website shortly and a mass email to passengers is imminent. Passengers can claim a refund or amend their ticket to a later date.

Full list published on their website:

Friday 6 December​

Service	Departure time	From..	Other principal locations	To..	Arrival time	Status
040	21:15	Bristol		London	23:50	Will not operate
040	23:59	London		Bristol	02:20	Will not operate
106	22:05	Penzance	Plymouth Exeter Bristol	Birmingham	07:50	Will not operate
201	22:20	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol Heathrow	Gatwick	04:30	Will not operate
201	21:05	Gatwick	Heathrow Bristol Cardiff	Swansea	03:25	Will not operate
201	15:20	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol Heathrow	Gatwick	21:30	Will terminate at Heathrow
201	22:50	Gatwick	Heathrow Bristol Cardiff	Swansea	5:10	Will not operate
509	19:45	Cardiff	Newport	London	23:15	Will not operate
509	17:45	Cardiff	Newport	London	21:35	Will not operate
509	23:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	02:55	Will not operate

Saturday 7 December​

Service	Departure time	From..	Other principal locations	To..	Arrival time	Status
040	01:00	London		Bristol	03:20	Will not operate
040	04:00	Bristol		London	06:35	Will not operate
040	04:45	Bristol		London	07:20	Will not operate
040	06:00	Bristol		London	08:40	Will not operate
040	06:30	Bristol		London	09:10	Will not operate
040	07:00	Bristol		London	09:40	Will not operate
040	07:00	London		Bristol	09:45	Will not operate
040	07:30	Bristol		London	10:15	Will not operate
040	08:00	Bristol		London	10:45	Will not operate
040	08:00	London		Bristol	10:45	Will not operate
040	08:15	Bristol White Tree		London	11:50	Will not operate
040	08:30	Bristol		London	11:20	Will not operate
040	09:00	London		Bristol White Tree	12:05	Will not operate
040	09:00	Weston		London	12:50	Will not operate
040	09:30	Bristol		London	12:20	Will not operate
040	10:00	London		Bristol	13:00	Will not operate
040	10:30	Bristol		London	13:20	Will not operate
040	10:55	Bristol White Tree		London	14:20	Will not operate
040	11:00	London		Bristol	13:45	Will not operate
040	11:00	Bristol		London	14:00	Will not operate
040	11:30	London		Bristol	14:20	Will not operate
040	12:00	London		Bristol White Tree	15:20	Will not operate
040	12:00	Bristol		London	14:50	Will not operate
040	12:30	London		Bristol	15:20	Will not operate
040	13:00	London		Bristol	16:00	Will not operate
040	14:00	London		Bristol	17:00	Will not operate
040	14:30	London		Bristol	17:20	Will not operate
040	15:00	London		Bristol	18:00	Will not operate
040	15:30	London		Bristol	18:20	Will not operate
100	10:00	Birmingham	Bristol	Bath	13:10	Will not operate
100	10:00	Bristol		Birmingham	12:00	Will not operate
100	11:00	Weston		Birmingham	14:00	Start in Bristol 12:30 (30 min delay)
100	13:00	Birmingham	Heathrow	Bristol	15:00	Will not operate
100	07:00*	Bristol		Birmingham	09:30	Will not operate
101	05:40	Plymouth	Exeter Bristol	Birmingham	11:00	Will not operate
101	08:15	Birmingham	Bristol Exeter	Plymouth	14:05	Will not operate
101	15:50	Plymouth	Bristol Exeter	Birmingham	21:30	TBC
102	06:35	Plymouth	Exeter Bristol	Birmingham	13:00	Will not operate
102	12:00	Birmingham	Bristol Exeter	Plymouth	18:45	TBC
104	11:00	Birmingham	Bristol Exeter Plymouth	Penzance	20:05	Start in Bristol 13:15
111	08:35	Swansea	Cardiff, Newport	Birmingham	12:30	Will not operate
111	11:25	Swansea	Cardiff Newport	Birmingham	15:30	Will start in Cardiff
111	15:00	Birmingham	Newport Cardiff	Swansea	18:50	Will not operate
112	07:15	Haverfordwest	Swansea, Cardiff, Newport	Birmingham	14:00	Will not operate
112	13:30	Birmingham	Newport Cardiff Swansea	Haverfordwest	19:50	Will not operate
200	03:05	Bristol	Heathrow	Gatwick	06:30	Will not operate
200	05:00	Bristol	Heathrow	Gatwick	08:30	Will not operate
200	07:00	Bristol	Heathrow	Gatwick	10:35	Will not operate
200	07:55	Gatwick	Heathrow	Bristol	11:35	Will not operate
200	09:00	Bristol	Heathrow	Gatwick	12:35	Will not operate
200	09:50	Gatwick	Heathrow	Bristol	13:35	Will not operate
200	11:00	Bristol	Heathrow	Gatwick	14:35	Will not operate
200	11:50	Gatwick	Heathrow	Bristol	15:35	Will not operate
200	13:50	Gatwick	Heathrow	Bristol	17:35	Will not operate
200	15:50	Gatwick	Heathrow	Bristol	19:35	Will Start from Heathrow T5 at 1710
201	00:35	Swansea	Cardiff Heathrow	Gatwick	06:00	Will not operate
201	02:25	Swansea	Cardiff Heathrow	Gatwick	07:50	Will not operate
201	04:20	Swansea	Cardiff Heathrow	Gatwick	10:00	Will not operate
201	05:55	Gatwick	Heathrow Bristol Cardiff	Swansea	12:20	Will not operate
201	06:10	Swansea	Cardiff Heathrow	Gatwick	11:55	Will not operate
201	07:55	Gatwick	Heathrow Cardiff	Swansea	13:50	Will not operate
201	08:05	Swansea	Cardiff Heathrow	Gatwick	13:50	Will not operate
201	09:50	Gatwick	Heathrow Cardiff	Swansea	15:50	Will not operate
201	10:20	Swansea		Gatwick	16:05	Will not operate
201	11:50	Gatwick	Heathrow Cardiff	Swansea	17:50	Will not operate
201	13:50	Gatwick	Heathrow Cardiff	Swansea	19:50	Will not operate
201	15:50	Gatwick	Heathrow Cardiff	Swansea	21:45	Will Start from Heathrow T5 at 1710
201	18:50	Gatwick		Swansea	00:30	Will Start from Heathrow T5 at 2010
202	01:25	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol	Heathrow	06:30	Will not operate
202	03:25	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol	Heathrow	08:40	Will not operate
202	05:20	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol	Heathrow	10:40	Will not operate
202	07:20	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol	Heathrow	12:40	Will not operate
202	07:50	Heathrow	Bristol Cardiff	Cardiff	12:05	Will not operate
202	09:20	Swansea	Cardiff Bristol	Heathrow	14:30	Will not operate
202	09:50	Heathrow	Bristol Cardiff	Cardiff	14:05	Will not operate
202	11:50	Heathrow	Bristol Cardiff	Swansea	17:25	Will not operate
202	13:50	Heathrow	Bristol Cardiff	Swansea	19:25	Will not operate
216	02:30	Cardiff	Newport	Bristol Apt	03:55	Will not operate
216	04:10	Bristol Apt	Newport	Cardiff	05:45	Will not operate
216	04:25	Cardiff	Newport	Bristol Apt	05:45	Will not operate
216	06:00	Bristol Apt	Newport	Cardiff	07:40	Will not operate
216	06:30	Cardiff	Newport	Bristol Apt	07:55	Will not operate
216	08:15	Bristol Apt	Newport	Cardiff	10:00	Will not operate
216	09:00	Cardiff	Newport	Bristol Apt	10:25	Will not operate
216	10:45	Bristol Apt	Newport	Cardiff	12:20	Will not operate
216	11:00	Cardiff	Newport	Bristol Apt	12:35	Will not operate
216	13:00	Bristol Apt	Newport	Cardiff	14:35	Will not operate
403	04:00	Bath		London	07:20	Will not operate
403	06:05	Bath		London	09:20	Will not operate
403	07:50	Bath		London	11:20	Will not operate
403	09:00	London		Bath	12:05	Will not operate
403	09:35	Bath		London	12:50	Will not operate
403	10:30	London		Bath	13:45	Will not operate
403	12:30	London		Bath	15:20	Will not operate
403	14:00	London		Bath	17:30	Will not operate
409	08:25	Aberystwyth	Birmingham	London	15:45	Start in birmingham 12:45
409	12:30	London	Birmingham	Aberystwyth	19:25	Terminate in Birmingham
502	06:15	Barnstaple	Taunton Heathrow	London	12:20	Will not operate
502	08:05	Bideford	Taunton Heathrow	London	15:10	Will not operate
502	10:30	London	Heathrow Taunton	Bideford	16:45	Will not operate
502	11:00	Bideford	Taunton Heathrow	London	17:50	Start in Taunton 13:15
502	13:30	London	Heathrow Taunton	Bideford	20:10	Will not operate
502	16:30	London	Heathrow Taunton	Barnstaple	22:05	Will not operate
507	05:30	Swansea	Cardiff	London	10:05	Will not operate
507	06:35	Swansea	Cardiff	London	11:25	Will not operate
507	08:05	Swansea	Cardiff	London	13:05	Will not operate
507	08:30	London	Cardiff	Swansea	13:05	Will not operate
507	09:25	Swansea	Cardiff	London	14:35	Will not operate
507	10:15	Llanelli		London	15:45	Start in Cardiff
507	13:30	London	Cardiff Swansea	Llanelli	18:55	Will not operate
507	15:00	London	Cardiff	Swansea	20:00	Will not operate
507	16:30	London	Cardiff	Swansea	21:15	Will not operate
508	09:10	Haverfordwest	Swansea	London	17:05	Will Start in Swansea
508	12:00	London	Swansea	Haverfordwest	19:20	Will not operate
509	00:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	03:45	Will not operate
509	03:15	Cardiff	Newport	London	06:50	Will not operate
509	04:50	Cardiff	Newport	London	08:20	Will not operate
509	05:55	Cardiff	Newport	London	09:20	Will not operate
509	07:15	Cardiff	Newport	London	10:50	Will not operate
509	08:30	Cardiff	Newport	London	12:20	Will not operate
509	09:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	13:10	Will not operate
509	10:00	Cardiff	Newport	London	13:50	Will not operate
509	11:30	Cardiff	Newport	London	15:05	Will not operate
509	11:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	15:10	Will not operate
509	12:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	16:20	Will not operate
509	14:00	London	Newport	Cardiff	17:40	Will not operate
509	15:30	London	Newport	Cardiff	19:15	Will not operate

Bristol and Cardiff coach stations will be closed and unstaffed until midday Saturday.

 

[cambsy]

Just come back on the 22.30 509 London-Cardiff(Fri 6th Dec), having had day out in London, and first heard of anything, was when at Victoria Coach station, so think was lucky to be on last service of the night to Cardiff. We ended up Cardiff 10 mins early, after good run, the coach swayed bit in the wind but nothing too bad. Then had drive back home, was pretty wind to be honest but nothing unmanageable.

 

[Mwanesh]

Stoke really has been cut out of the NX routes. In times gon by any lengthy wait on Hanley bus station would have seen a coach or 2 coming and going, now there's nothing. It's particularly disappointing, because bus links to nearby(ish) major towns & cities are non-existant. Places like Manchester, Derby, Wolverhampton. would almost definitely be served from any other city this size, but we have nothing.

I last drove into Stoke in 2010.It was the overnight Birmingham,Wolverhampton ,Stoke service to Manchester .Back then beyond Wolverhampton you hardly picked anyone.

 

[Statto]

I last drove into Stoke in 2010.It was the overnight Birmingham,Wolverhampton ,Stoke service to Manchester .Back then beyond Wolverhampton you hardly picked anyone.

Not sure the times the old 422 (which was Burnley - London) was due in Stoke, but most passengers would have got the overnight 421, their was certainly more than a handful of passengers boarding & alighting everytime i went through Stoke on the 421.

 

[route101]

Any new routes or changes coming up to the NX network?

 

[Eyersey468]

Any new routes or changes coming up to the NX network?

Not that I've heard, I suspect any new routes won't start until March or April

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

Not that I've heard, I suspect any new routes won't start until March or April

Oxford could do with a service to the North East and Scotland by National Express considering Megabus aren't running there now.

 

[Eyersey468]

Oxford could do with a service to the North East and Scotland by National Express considering Megabus aren't running there now.

I agree NX need to put more routes on otherwise Flixbus will get in first, unfortunately as a driver it's not my decision to make though

 

[londonteacher]

I agree NX need to put more routes on otherwise Flixbus will get in first, unfortunately as a driver it's not my decision to make though

Is it not an argument though that FlixBus should become competitive to NX and ultimately a more reliable widespread network. Otherwise, NX will have a monopoly. They also both have different service methods.

NX are usually more direct services, FlixBus usually longer stopping in more places but cheaper.

 

[Mitchell Hurd]

I agree NX need to put more routes on otherwise Flixbus will get in first, unfortunately as a driver it's not my decision to make though

Nice to have a National Express coach driver on here. If it was up to me, I'd bring back the once called mega-routes I'm aware of with cheaper fares and catering!

 

[markymark2000]

NX are usually more direct services, FlixBus usually longer stopping in more places but cheaper.

That's a very big generalisation I think it's somewhat 50/50. Flix has some more direct services (Swansea to Bristol Airport, Bristol to Yorkshire, Aberdeen to London) and some trips which can be faster than NatEx (such as Manchester fast buses). Flixbus also don't always stop at more places. Though where routes are compatible, Flix can sometimes have a longer scheduled journey time for some reason (look at Leicester to London for example, NX is quicker despite sometimes extra stops).

I agree NX need to put more routes on otherwise Flixbus will get in first, unfortunately as a driver it's not my decision to make though

NatEx has lost its way. A NATIONAL Express should be serving far more stops than they are. Just look at Wales, they've mostly abandoned the country bar the M4 corridor. Scotland mostly ignored too bar Glasgow and Edinburgh. No links to Northern Ireland other than the 3rd party partnership with competitor Citylink. It's not a very national, National Express anymore.

 

[route101]

I agree NX need to put more routes on otherwise Flixbus will get in first, unfortunately as a driver it's not my decision to make though

Flixbus have a few cross country routes now but most expansion is on existing corridors.

A night service from Glasgow to Southampton like the M17 would be useful.

 

[Eyersey468]

That's a very big generalisation I think it's somewhat 50/50. Flix has some more direct services (Swansea to Bristol Airport, Bristol to Yorkshire, Aberdeen to London) and some trips which can be faster than NatEx (such as Manchester fast buses). Flixbus also don't always stop at more places. Though where routes are compatible, Flix can sometimes have a longer scheduled journey time for some reason (look at Leicester to London for example, NX is quicker despite sometimes extra stops).



NatEx has lost its way. A NATIONAL Express should be serving far more stops than they are. Just look at Wales, they've mostly abandoned the country bar the M4 corridor. Scotland mostly ignored too bar Glasgow and Edinburgh. No links to Northern Ireland other than the 3rd party partnership with competitor Citylink. It's not a very national, National Express anymore.

I agree there should be more stops than there are, I can understand some stops from pre Covid not returning as hardly anyone used them, but there are several stops we used to call at that were busy pre Covid that have no sign of returning

 

[Welshman]

"National Express proposes a Transport Hub for Cheltenham"

What goes around comes around, but with no mass exodus at 2.30pm of Royal Blue, Midland Red, Yorkshire Traction, Black & White, etc though

National Express to operate from new Cheltenham transport hub

'The inclusion of Arle Court Transport Hub as a new stop on several enhanced National Express services is fantastic news for Cheltenham and Gloucestershire'

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

 

[PeterC]

"National Express proposes a Transport Hub for Cheltenham"

What goes around comes around, but with no mass exodus at 2.30pm of Royal Blue, Midland Red, Yorkshire Traction, Black & White, etc though

National Express to operate from new Cheltenham transport hub

'The inclusion of Arle Court Transport Hub as a new stop on several enhanced National Express services is fantastic news for Cheltenham and Gloucestershire'

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

Hopefully Gloucestershire Council are planning to extend the opening hours from the current 6 days a week and actually have the toilets open after teatime. More than 10 minutes for pick up or drop off would be handy too.

 

[markymark2000]

"National Express proposes a Transport Hub for Cheltenham"

What goes around comes around, but with no mass exodus at 2.30pm of Royal Blue, Midland Red, Yorkshire Traction, Black & White, etc though

National Express to operate from new Cheltenham transport hub

'The inclusion of Arle Court Transport Hub as a new stop on several enhanced National Express services is fantastic news for Cheltenham and Gloucestershire'

www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk

I wonder if they will divert the 444/445 into the hub as well.

I'd have thought the 444/445 towards Gloucester would have had the Arle Court stop moved from the A40 bus stop, into the hub from day 1.

 

[Bedford OB]

Would anyone by any chance be able to tell me on what date the 786 (Luton Airport to Cambridge) started operating, please? Possibly with the 4 december improvements, or earlier?
Thanks.