GRALISTAIR
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No doubt about it imho. Surely there will be some ancient mining activity in the area so it makes sense.
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modernrail
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Quite something to finally see some signs of electrification on the core of the most important intercity line in the country!!!
What is the planned switch on date?
What is the planned switch on date?
Morley’s just been built on a curve that doesn’t look much different
The WCML says “hello”
modernrail
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A mere pretender.
GraphitProjekt
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yeah I considered that too but it'd make more sense in that location to play off ECML's "E". Especially since Manchester Picc to Crewe is "M".
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edwin_m
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Perhaps whoever allocated this has a sense of history, as it's an ex-LNWR route which was connected to the rest of their network via Stockport-Stalybridge.
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Another good You Tube video from Sarah Bell featuring Mirfield etc
Nicholas Lewis
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Thats excellent rate of installation and on a par with what was being on ECML nigh on 40yrs ago. It demonstrates whats achievable when the contractors are let off the leash and shows lines could be electrified alot quicker and thus cheaper with the right approach.Update from one of the site engineers from the ongoing blockade. It sounds like lots of steelwork to be installed next.
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#ole #teamwork #engineeringexcellence #transpenninerouteupgrade | Jake Berry | 13 comments
Today marks the successful installation of the last of over 100 OLE foundations, completed in just three and a half weeks along the The Transpennine Route Upgrade (TRU). This achievement is a testament to the expertise and professionalism of the Keltbray Infrastructure Services piling team...www.linkedin.com
GRALISTAIR
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Indeed. I really am beginning to feel a lot more optimistic.
Nottingham59
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Do we know how much the TRU electrification is costing, and whether it has actually achieved the cost savings hoped for?
GRALISTAIR
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I have been following closely and I have not seen anything.
YorkshireBear
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I think both sides of the electrification arguement will use TRU to further their case. TRU is not an electrification project it is a route upgrade project and I suspect separating costs will be a dark art hence being able to manipulate that to further their cause.
On a separate point, on my travels to work today the piles are definitely spreading from the Garforth compound. It looks like all the easy (easy being relative) piles are going in, with gaps around some harder areas such as tight rock cuttings.
Progress being made at Church Fenton, with the route of the new road now visible and material being compacted in layers.
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superkev
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I seem to remember the original scheme included Micklefield jnc to Hambleton jnc and Selby fro cross Leeds electrics but these we're Graylinged (paused).
The few miles to Hambleton would be a usefull diversionary route.
Has it been reinstated?
K
The few miles to Hambleton would be a usefull diversionary route.
Has it been reinstated?
K
Not as part of TRU, it's Leeds - Church Fenton only.
Micklefield to Hull was mentioned in the Network North proposals but that is all up in the air for now, however;
superkev
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Didnt Hull trains once offer to pay for wires from the ecml to Hull. They were turned down so had to buy Hitachi bi-modes.
K
They did, in return (IIRC) for a long access contract.
I also guess that as with almost every other TOC or local authority who tries their hand at major rail infrastructure work, they would have underestimated the complexity and therefore cost. But that’s my personal opinion.
themiller
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Wasn’t it Alstom who offered to do the wiring and charge the railway for it over time?
Whistler40145
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Is Hambleton South to Hambleton West chord being wired?
I thought the sticking point was how much they wanted to charge for other companies using the wires???
Went for another walk on Sunday 17/11/24 to check what had changed.
Walked down the footpath from Gelderd Rd towards the Ring Road bridge, nothing to see.
View towards Ring Rd/Leeds from the Gelderd Rd bridge:
View towards the M621/Cottingley from Gelderd Rd Bridge:
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View from Cottingley Station footbridge, first larger 6 pin piles either side of bridge, then view towards White Rose station:
There were no piles on the Leeds side of the Cottingley footbridge or in/behind Cottingley station, or visible between the end of Cottingley's platforms and the M621.
Now the view from either side of Churwell Viaduct of White Rose station, showing the ladder style masts on both sides of the station, and a lone tubular mast with (shorter) jib/beam at the Morley side of the viaduct on the Leeds-Bound line:
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View from Broad Oaks Farm, looking northwards towards Leeds and the White Rose station:
Note the three different mast types in this run, I'm calling them skinny I beam, fat I beam and ladder in absence of the correct terminology!
Next three pictures from taken on the opposite (northern) side of the line:
The mast above is between the White Rose centre network access gate, and the White Rose station site. I pushed as far as I could, but the footpath naturally becomes massively overgrown as it is fenced off by the arch tunnel at the station site and has therefore seen no foot traffic for years.
This style of mast, without its beam is present at either side of the White Rose centre footbridge:
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We now look towards Morley/Huddersfield from the White Rose centre footbrige:
Note the same tubular mast, but with a longer Jib and no pile opposite suggesting it will carry both lines catenaries, with the odd "skinny I-beam" mast between them.
Close-ups of the tubular style mast and adjustable height jib in a medium length:
View from just above the new Daisy Hill Network Rail access gate towards the Natasha Elliot footbridge:
And the reverse view back towards the Daisy Hill gate:
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Notice, two different sizes of I-beam, in different orientations. Wild how many different types of parts there are in this scheme.
View towards Morley station from the Natasha Elliot footbrige, showing the last mast on this run, another tubular one with the shortest version of the jib attached:
The piles above, with boards on top appear to be the last they had done at this point, with none in/behind Morley station as per Cottingley presumably as suggested they are doing the easiest piles first:
As others have noted, they have made great progress during this blockade, its really exciting to see it all coming together.
This week Monday - Friday is the final blockade in the run, so will have another wander next weekend to see what's changed.
Walked down the footpath from Gelderd Rd towards the Ring Road bridge, nothing to see.
View towards Ring Rd/Leeds from the Gelderd Rd bridge:
View towards the M621/Cottingley from Gelderd Rd Bridge:
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View from Cottingley Station footbridge, first larger 6 pin piles either side of bridge, then view towards White Rose station:
There were no piles on the Leeds side of the Cottingley footbridge or in/behind Cottingley station, or visible between the end of Cottingley's platforms and the M621.
Now the view from either side of Churwell Viaduct of White Rose station, showing the ladder style masts on both sides of the station, and a lone tubular mast with (shorter) jib/beam at the Morley side of the viaduct on the Leeds-Bound line:
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View from Broad Oaks Farm, looking northwards towards Leeds and the White Rose station:
Note the three different mast types in this run, I'm calling them skinny I beam, fat I beam and ladder in absence of the correct terminology!
Next three pictures from taken on the opposite (northern) side of the line:
The mast above is between the White Rose centre network access gate, and the White Rose station site. I pushed as far as I could, but the footpath naturally becomes massively overgrown as it is fenced off by the arch tunnel at the station site and has therefore seen no foot traffic for years.
This style of mast, without its beam is present at either side of the White Rose centre footbridge:
== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
We now look towards Morley/Huddersfield from the White Rose centre footbrige:
Note the same tubular mast, but with a longer Jib and no pile opposite suggesting it will carry both lines catenaries, with the odd "skinny I-beam" mast between them.
Close-ups of the tubular style mast and adjustable height jib in a medium length:
View from just above the new Daisy Hill Network Rail access gate towards the Natasha Elliot footbridge:
And the reverse view back towards the Daisy Hill gate:
== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
Notice, two different sizes of I-beam, in different orientations. Wild how many different types of parts there are in this scheme.
View towards Morley station from the Natasha Elliot footbrige, showing the last mast on this run, another tubular one with the shortest version of the jib attached:
The piles above, with boards on top appear to be the last they had done at this point, with none in/behind Morley station as per Cottingley presumably as suggested they are doing the easiest piles first:
As others have noted, they have made great progress during this blockade, its really exciting to see it all coming together.
This week Monday - Friday is the final blockade in the run, so will have another wander next weekend to see what's changed.
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Halish Railway
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Thank you for this extensive documentation!
This is the first I have seen of the OLE progress between Morley and Leeds and it certainly looks promising.
GRALISTAIR
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I echo these sentiments 100%
superkev
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Thanks most interesting excellent progress.
Let's hope progress can be maintained when it comes to the testing and paper shuffling stage at the end.
Looks like concrete piles may becoming the norm.
K
Tetragon213
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As someone who is loosely involved on TRU, it's strangely gratifying to see our designs being turned into reality!
GRALISTAIR
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Or combo piles. Pile in, auger out the soil/clay debris etc. Back fill with concrete.
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This weekend is a blockade through Morley, but further blockades must be scheduled for 2025. It looks like trains are scheduled again that way from next week.
59CosG95
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What a detailed set of photos! Based on experience putting OLE in, I can try and piece together what I can make out from them.
Image "mly01": I've annotated the foundation types based on what sort of mast will go on them. It looks to me as if an overlap (where one wire run pair ends and another begins) is due to go in here. The "SSA" stands for "Simply Supported Anchor", and has the web of the mast (i.e. the long part of the "I") parallel to track to resist the tensile forces of the anchored wire runs.
The "TTC" stands for "Twin Track Cantilever", a mast that covers two (or more!) tracks. These are the "tubular mast and jib" structures alluded to in your posts nearer Daisy Hill/the Natasha Elliot Footbridge.
At this specific location, the TTCs will each support two cantilevers per track (i.e. 4 dangly bits overall).
Image "mly02": Another possible TTC foundation south of the overlap in "mly01". The concrete is presumably still curing.
Image "mly03": The foundation on the Up side is likely to be a standalone "STC" (Single Track Cantilever), while the one on the Down side is more likely to be an SSA (based on the arrangement of the anchor bolts parallel to track).
Image "mly04": I can make out three Dn side TTC foundations (looking almost ready to take masts) between the lens and the signal. Again, the arrangement of the holding-down bolts gives it away.
Image "mly05": The TTC bolt arrangement is clearly shown. Picture it like a pair of parentheses parallel to track: "() ||"
Image "mly06": A repeat of the arrangement in "mly03".
Image "mly07": 3 (possible) TTC foundations (all on the Dn), but this time they've gone for hydraulically-driven piles, 610mm in diameter. My hunch as to why they're TTCs is that the SSA in "mly06" is anchoring the earth wire (EW; more on them later) before the footbridge at Cottingley, so that would imply an SSA on both sides in "mly06" if the masts beyond weren't TTCs. There also appears to be a foundation on the Up for a possible Portal structure, likely to be used as a Mid-Point Anchor (MPA). Time will tell if it is!
Image "mly09": The pair of masts in the middle of the picture are the "legs" for a Portal structure. Portals are common around stations as it's easier to have a smaller live envelope around the OLE if you support the wires from the centre of the "boom" or "bridge" of the structure. There are also safety stipulations which necessitate their use around stations but to avoid further muddying the waters with railway jargon, I'll let them slide for now.
GRALISTAIR
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Good lord! The quality of some of the posts on this thread and on this whole forum is beyond amazing at times. Thanks to everyone. Keeps me in the loop here in the USA.