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Xmas (Winter Festival) timetables 2023
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The Wirral-specific issue is that the hospitals at Arrowe Park and Clatterbridge are brilliantly located for the M53 but either several miles from the nearest Merseyrail station (Arrowe Park) or down a combination of country lanes and motorway slip roads (Clatterbridge). There are also normally enough people to fill a couple of buses after a Tranmere home game, and one firm with a near monopoly on taxis.
heart-of-wessex
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Is bustimes.org still pretty reliable for Timetable data? There used to be a warning on dates like New Year's Day saying data might not be accurate, but not seen one and seems to confirm areas that aren't running on New Year's Day.
Looking on there National Express West Midlands seem to have quite a frequent service out on New Year's Day. I was hoping on doing a bit of spotting at Birmingham on that day. Looking at the route 87 as a random route, it seems to be a 10 minute frequency; surprisingly busy when other areas outside are having no service at all.
Looking on there National Express West Midlands seem to have quite a frequent service out on New Year's Day. I was hoping on doing a bit of spotting at Birmingham on that day. Looking at the route 87 as a random route, it seems to be a 10 minute frequency; surprisingly busy when other areas outside are having no service at all.
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The 82 and 87 have a combined frequency of every 10 minutes where they share route on that day.
Bustimes had a few journeys that don't show up on the NX site.
RE TfGM area
On Diamond's website, https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/christmas-holidays-2023/ under "North West" it says:
"We will run Service 52 and 100 on behalf of The Trafford Centre" so seems like they are the ones funding it.
The 100 will only be trips between Manchester and The Trafford Centre or Hollins Green on Boxing Day, not serving Warrington.
Diamond's Christmas timetables available here:
Service 52 - Boxing Day Timetables
Service 100 - Boxing Day Timetables
There is quite a lot of layover in the 100 timetable!
On Diamond's website, https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/christmas-holidays-2023/ under "North West" it says:
"We will run Service 52 and 100 on behalf of The Trafford Centre" so seems like they are the ones funding it.
The 100 will only be trips between Manchester and The Trafford Centre or Hollins Green on Boxing Day, not serving Warrington.
Diamond's Christmas timetables available here:
Service 52 - Boxing Day Timetables
Service 100 - Boxing Day Timetables
There is quite a lot of layover in the 100 timetable!
ChrisC
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Saturday 23rd December now at just after 7pm. The last bus of the day has gone through the village about half an hour ago. No more buses now until 6.40am on Wednesday 27th December. This is how it will be on so many routes throughout wide areas of the country where there are no evening or Sunday buses.
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Trainguy34
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7.47 am on Wednesday 27th here, no Sunday or Bank Holiday Services. Last bus to the nearest town was 1 1/2 Hrs ago.
It's Christmas Eve today.
ChrisC
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Oh yes! Days can get confusing this time of year amd so easy to lose track of time. Edited it now.
Statto
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For those of us that do have bus services on Christmas Eve & New Years Eve, it's a normal Sunday service with early finish (my area Wirral last buses are between 7pm & 8pm). Are their any areas that are running a normal Sunday evening service, & not finishing early?
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Route 4 between Burton and Swadlincote finished on Friday and does not start again until the 2nd! Fortunately a reasonable amount of the route is covered by other routes.
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London has a full bus service until end of service on day routes with 24 hour routes ending around midnight.
My services stop a couple of hours early.
Oddly every year I have one service end much later than others.
One ends at 1812, an hour earlier than previous years, due to it being a Sunday service which misses out the 19xx bus (last bus is usually 2212, 2012 on a Sunday). Another at 1900 (last bus is usually 2300, 2030 on a Sunday). And the last has a 1925. And then a 2025 (last bus is usually 2225 every day). The 2025 62 is an hour later than any other long distance bus out of Keighley and does not return in service from Ilkley as all buses do on normal days and all buses except the 60 to Leeds do on Christmas and New Year's Eve. This happens every year for no obvious reason.
We also have a route that provides various non-commercially viable links which will only operate for 4 of the 9 days between now and the 1st January, and those 4 will have just 8 trips instead of the usual weekday 16.
Bedford OB
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There are various examples with a normal or at least getting towards normal Sunday evening service, such as Bluestar, First Beeline, First Essex (with a few adjustments to the late airport services), Brighton & Hove until about 2200, Metrobus, Thames Valley Buses, Reading Buses (the 24 hour services, which operate to at least 2300 these days), Diamond Bus South East, Stagecoach South at the likes of Basingstoke and Winchester. Of course some normally finish earlier than others, e.g. mid-evening; there are plenty more with a normal Sunday service but who don't normally operate far into the evening on Sunday anyway.
Everyone deserves a break, but the trouble with Christmas and New Year is that everyone wants it at the same time….
Such a contrast to publicly owned Lothian Buses, and East Coast Buses. Villages between Edinburgh and North Berwick - some 20 miles away - have a service every day over the holidays including an hourly service for much of Christmas Day and New Year's Day. There's even 4 or 5 buses in the early hours of 1st Jan to get people home safely. Thank you Lothian Buses, and the drivers on duty.
In West Yorkshire on Boxing Day a special timetable operates with most core services operating every 30 minutes, although some are hourly and some are every 20 minutes during daytime hours
There is always interest for enthusiasts as you get interesting workings
First Leeds Bramley depot operate their own routes, plus those of Hunslet Park and also Bradford
First Huddersfield run their own services plus the few hourly routes that run in Halifax including the 508 to Leeds and 590 to Todmorden
Arriva Yorkshire often only open some of their depots and also have a rota where each driver keeps the same bus all day so their routes have gaps in the frequency in the middle of the day where there is a missing trip or two so the driver can have their lunch break
Harrogate Bus, Keighley Bus, Team Pennine (Huddersfield) and Flyer also operate some services
Batley, Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Castleford, Ossett, Pontefract & Wakefield bus stations don’t open so buses either run from a near by on street stop or the out of hours stand at the bus station that is accessible from outside
There is always interest for enthusiasts as you get interesting workings
First Leeds Bramley depot operate their own routes, plus those of Hunslet Park and also Bradford
First Huddersfield run their own services plus the few hourly routes that run in Halifax including the 508 to Leeds and 590 to Todmorden
Arriva Yorkshire often only open some of their depots and also have a rota where each driver keeps the same bus all day so their routes have gaps in the frequency in the middle of the day where there is a missing trip or two so the driver can have their lunch break
Harrogate Bus, Keighley Bus, Team Pennine (Huddersfield) and Flyer also operate some services
Batley, Cleckheaton, Dewsbury, Castleford, Ossett, Pontefract & Wakefield bus stations don’t open so buses either run from a near by on street stop or the out of hours stand at the bus station that is accessible from outside
WibbleWobble
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The whole of Go South Coast is running a normal Sunday service, apart from the handful of Swindon Bus routes that normally run until late evening. Even Unilink is running a full day for the first time.
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Probably allows duties to be "self-breaking", i.e. driver breaks are built in. Also allows for the heavy traffic around the centre, especially if any incidents occur on the M60!
Pre-COVID, Keighley had 3 routes in Christmas Day (one cross-town), making New Year's Day the only day I had no buses (though I could see 8 to 10 trains an hour going along the nearby railway line).
Tetchytyke
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Here Christmas Eve was a normal Sunday service to the end of service. Today has been too.
NYE is a normal Sunday service to the end of service however there are there are also the Hullad Oie night buses from Douglas on all the main routes at 0015.
Full details of our festive services. Amazing service compared to the UK.
| Thursday 21st December | School day service |
| Friday 22nd December | School day service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
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| Saturday 23rd December | Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
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| Sunday 24th December (Christmas Eve) | Normal Sunday service |
| Monday 25th December (Christmas Day) | No service |
| Tuesday 26th December (St Stephens Day - Boxing day) | Sunday service |
| Wednesday 27th December | Saturday morning and daytime service with normal Wednesday evening service operating after 1815 |
| Thursday 28th December | School holiday service |
| Friday 29th December | School holidays service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
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| Saturday 30th December | Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
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| Sunday 31st December (New Years Eve) | Sunday service including additional late evening Public holiday Journeys and Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
Extra service details can be found by clicking here |
| Monday 1st January (New Years Day) | Sunday service |
| Tuesday 2nd January | School holiday service |
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The advantages of government ownership?Here Christmas Eve was a normal Sunday service to the end of service. Today has been too.
NYE is a normal Sunday service to the end of service however there are there are also the Hullad Oie night buses from Douglas on all the main routes at 0015.
Full details of our festive services. Amazing service compared to the UK.
Thursday 21st December School day service Friday 22nd December School day service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Saturday 23rd December Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Sunday 24th December
(Christmas Eve)Normal Sunday service Monday 25th December
(Christmas Day)No service Tuesday 26th December
(St Stephens Day - Boxing day)Sunday service Wednesday 27th December Saturday morning and daytime service with normal Wednesday evening service operating after 1815 Thursday 28th December School holiday service Friday 29th December School holidays service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Saturday 30th December Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Sunday 31st December
(New Years Eve)Sunday service including additional late evening Public holiday Journeys and Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
Extra service details can be found by clicking hereMonday 1st January
(New Years Day)Sunday service Tuesday 2nd January School holiday service
1D54
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Leicester City Centre rammed with shoppers and not a bus service to be seen ( apart from the Skylink today) so people just make alternative arrangements to do whatever they have planned. Arriva €30 billion in debt so don't give a damn about foreign contracts they are trying to get rid of.. What is the excuse from Stagecoach etc?? Rhetorical question as i gave up on the lot of them three years ago. Disgusting!!
Here Christmas Eve was a normal Sunday service to the end of service. Today has been too.
NYE is a normal Sunday service to the end of service however there are there are also the Hullad Oie night buses from Douglas on all the main routes at 0015.
Full details of our festive services. Amazing service compared to the UK.
Thursday 21st December School day service Friday 22nd December School day service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Saturday 23rd December Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Sunday 24th December
(Christmas Eve)Normal Sunday service Monday 25th December
(Christmas Day)No service Tuesday 26th December
(St Stephens Day - Boxing day)Sunday service Wednesday 27th December Saturday morning and daytime service with normal Wednesday evening service operating after 1815 Thursday 28th December School holiday service Friday 29th December School holidays service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Saturday 30th December Saturday service including Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys Sunday 31st December
(New Years Eve)Sunday service including additional late evening Public holiday Journeys and Hullad Oie (Night Owl) journeys
Extra service details can be found by clicking hereMonday 1st January
(New Years Day)Sunday service Tuesday 2nd January School holiday service
It's a bit OT but I've just been looking into Isle of Man bus services, out of interest.
One very notable difference to the UK is the existence of peak extra buses on many routes. Such things would certainly be rare in areas with similar population in the UK.
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Buses in Sheffield today were all double decker with First Sheffield running only B9TL’s & Stagecoach Ecclesfield depot running all services including the normally Holbrook operated 7 & 120. Mainly using the Scania E400’s. A number of routes inter worked with each other such as 75/97, 95/95a/56.
Stagecoach Barnsley only operated the contracted GXO Logistics services.
Stagecoach Barnsley only operated the contracted GXO Logistics services.
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Not a single bus in Hull or East Yorkshire on Christmas Day, Boxing Day or New Years Day. Both Stagecoach and East Yorkshire have completely pulled the Boxing Day services seen in previous years. Bizarrely, Hull City Council found money to subsidise park & ride fares in December (which only benefits car owners) but couldn’t find money to support actual bus services on days where aren’t any!
The other twist is that Hull’s all-day bus lanes have remained in operation despite not seeing a single bus.
The other twist is that Hull’s all-day bus lanes have remained in operation despite not seeing a single bus.
A point that has been mentioned over on the "Has public transport ever run on Christmas and Boxing day" thread has been the scheduling of sports fixtures for Boxing Day and New Year's Day.
You have people being told to, rightly, not drink and drive yet they are expected to attend horse racing and football on days when there are no trains running and the buses are either on a limited service or not running at all. (In Scotland, ScotRail doesn't run on New Year's Day in addition to Christmas and Boxing Days.)
You have people being told to, rightly, not drink and drive yet they are expected to attend horse racing and football on days when there are no trains running and the buses are either on a limited service or not running at all. (In Scotland, ScotRail doesn't run on New Year's Day in addition to Christmas and Boxing Days.)
Scotrail did run a service on Boxing Day, albeit a limited service!
Glasgow area plus a limited service out of Waverley, I believe.
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