TfW withdrawals (Now just 150/158s to go)

[Bikeman78]

Probably just getting old and not used to as much long distance work (both towards Manchester & also towards Holyhead).

It will be interesting to see the MTIN figures in Modern Railways this year. Since February, the average daily mileage for the 150s has been quite a lot higher. Fewer stops and reversals will probably mean a better MTIN.

 

[Class172]

Gosh, one can tell from this that you're not served by the 150s regularly. As someone who gets solely 150s at the local station, I cannot wait for them to pee off elsewhere!

We’ll gladly take more down in Devon. They may be simple and old but the certainly are dependable units.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

We’ll gladly take more down in Devon. They may be simple and old but the certainly are dependable units.

I’d say the GWR ones are far nicer. The TfW ones are in a repulsive state, mainly the floor.

 

[Kaliwax]

I remember when these was brand new to FNW in 2000, think they replaced the old 309s? Usually got them from Chester to Man Pic, when I had family over there.

 

[warwickshire]

I remember when these was brand new to FNW in 2000, think they replaced the old 309s? Usually got them from Chester to Man Pic, when I had family over there.

Yes, they did, but only in part, also replaced the Met Camm 101s as well from the Marple, Rose Hill and Hope Valley lines, including Chester to Manchester Piccadilly via Plumley, and North Wales Blaenau Branch and some Holyhead services, plus Saturday Manchester to Blackpool services to enable 175, mainly North Wales and Blackpool and Cascade 142 150 156 Onto Marple, Hope Valley lines and Manchester to Chester via Plumley.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I remember when these was brand new to FNW in 2000, think they replaced the old 309s? Usually got them from Chester to Man Pic, when I had family over there.

“These” being?

 

[laseandre]

“These” being?

I think it's clear from the context of what thread this is and 2000 that it's the Class 175s...

 

[Kaliwax]

“These” being?

I should have read the thread title better,, didn't realise it was for the 15x class either. My mistake.

 

[vicbury]

Not sue how you can prefer a 150 to the superior ride quality and comfort of a 170, a 158 yes, a good alternative.

Hear, hear. The 150s are horrid. Engine noise. Wind noise. Doors banging. No air conditioning. Engine fumes. The list goes on. Despite how bashed up the 170s are internally, they are superior for my journeys to and from Lydney in every respect.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I think it's clear from the context of what thread this is and 2000 that it's the Class 175s...

Don’t be sarky. I made this thread to discuss the withdrawals of five different class types. We discussed 150s immediately above. My question was perfectly reasonable.

Either way, this thread isn’t in Railway History and Nostalgia

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Hear, hear. The 150s are horrid. Engine noise. Wind noise. Doors banging. No air conditioning. Engine fumes. The list goes on. Despite how bashed up the 170s are internally, they are superior for my journeys to and from Lydney in every respect.

I agree, but then this thread is to track the withdrawals rather than compare models, so I won’t elaborate

 

[The_Train]

175110 has just passed the Crewe cameras. A person on the Railcam chat says it's on the way to Ilford for some work to be done to it.

Has this been confirmed as destined for Ilford?

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Has this been confirmed as destined for Ilford?

Realtime trains says it went into Ilford

Realtime Trains | 5Q50 1035 Chester D.M.U.D. to Ilford E.M.U.D. | 27/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q50 1035 departure from Chester D.M.U.D. to Ilford E.M.U.D. on 27/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Jez]

Probably just getting old and not used to as much long distance work (both towards Manchester & also towards Holyhead).

I agree..They have worked the majority of the long distance services from South Wales to Manchester in the last six months so little wonder they are starting to struggle.

 

[The_Train]

Realtime trains says it went into Ilford

Realtime Trains | 5Q50 1035 Chester D.M.U.D. to Ilford E.M.U.D. | 27/10/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q50 1035 departure from Chester D.M.U.D. to Ilford E.M.U.D. on 27/10/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Indeed, now seen visual proof of it happening - thanks for the link

 

[Northerngirl]

How many sprinters are left in the North now, I've seen quite a few different 150s on the borderlands line in recent weeks

 

[Techniquest]

175115 is in the sidings east of Chester station. There was a further 175 in the sidings next to platform 7 and another, annoyingly, parked up behind 197108 in the depot, so that its identity wasn't visible from my TfW service.

175113 was there today at 1235 or so when I took the photo, and when I passed at around 1244 the 175 next to 197108 was 175105 105 was still there with the 197 when I passed again around 1910 today, and while I didn't look for 113 I'd imagine it was too.

I've put the photos in my latest trip report, which went live a few minutes ago, but I've included them here too

 

[Purple Train]

175113 was there today at 1235 or so when I took the photo, and when I passed at around 1244 the 175 next to 197108 was 175105 105 was still there with the 197 when I passed again around 1910 today, and while I didn't look for 113 I'd imagine it was too.

I've put the photos in my latest trip report, which went live a few minutes ago, but I've included them here too

Ah thank you! I was on the diverted 1V39 yesterday, eventually going to Exeter (what a great decision that was!) so had neither space nor time to investigate further, so thank you for that information Rather annoying looking at the comfortable, three-coach 175s from my packed 150!

 

[alm37]

175115 is in the sidings east of Chester station. There was a further 175 in the sidings next to platform 7 and another, annoyingly, parked up behind 197108 in the depot, so that its identity wasn't visible from my TfW service.

175105 was behind 197108 on the depot around 1200 Friday.

 

[Techniquest]

Ah thank you! I was on the diverted 1V39 yesterday, eventually going to Exeter (what a great decision that was!) so had neither space nor time to investigate further, so thank you for that information Rather annoying looking at the comfortable, three-coach 175s from my packed 150!

No problem It makes a change for me to be able to provide assistance!

I am intrigued as to what service 1V39 is and what happened on your trip!

 

[SuperLuke2334]

No problem It makes a change for me to be able to provide assistance!

I am intrigued as to what service 1V39 is and what happened on your trip!

1030 off Manchester. 1239 through Hereford, was over an hour late in the end.

 

[Techniquest]

1030 off Manchester. 1239 through Hereford, was over an hour late in the end.

Thanks! I'm rather glad I didn't go for that service then, mega ouch to the delay!

 

[Purple Train]

1030 off Manchester. 1239 through Hereford, was over an hour late in the end.

Yep, sent via Chester and Wrexham instead of Nantwich due to a signalling issue.

 

[Techniquest]

Yep, sent via Chester and Wrexham instead of Nantwich due to a signalling issue.

Oof that can't have been much fun. Especially with dodgy mobile signal coverage between Chester and Shrewsbury!

 

[Purple Train]

Oof that can't have been much fun. Especially with dodgy mobile signal coverage between Chester and Shrewsbury!

It was fun on the move, and especially fun for the gentleman next to me who procured some Cognac from the trolley...

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Overheard from a radio, problems with the rear doors on the 1454 CDF MAN 150, so I definitely stand by my thoughts that they’re starting to be let go in terms of condition

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Also, these two are still here, way past time!
(Image shows Northern 150269/270 at CDF)

 

[SuperLuke2334]

Overheard from a radio, problems with the rear doors on the 1454 CDF MAN 150, so I definitely stand by my thoughts that they’re starting to be let go in terms of condition

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Also, these two are still here, way past time!
(Image shows Northern 150269/270 at CDF)

270 has been having door interlock issues I know.... but it seems odd that they keep repeating.

 

[Bob Price]

This is 175110 passing the Camden Railcam camera on its way to Ilford. It was operated as a Rail Operations Group service.

 

[170UTD]

Also, these two are still here, way past time!
(Image shows Northern 150269/270 at CDF)

Does anyone have an idea when these will go back to Northern?

 

[Liverpool 507]

I went to Chester on Thursday and managed to get pictures of 175110 and 175115 in the long siding up to Hoole Lane. Also caught 175105 on Chester Depot and 175001 coming in to Chester from Crewe Gresty Green. I was looking at 175115 from an angle and couldn’t see any staining from any of the engines on the track. I was surprised to hear that 115 had its engine running for a long while, especially as there are bungalows and terraces next to the unit!

 

[anthony263]

Does anyone have an idea when these will go back to Northern?

End of November i was read