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noddingdonkey

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Presumably the timetable remains the same, that specified by Digs who operate Storthes Hall and contract the bus.
 
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I think Yorkshire Buses will end up running half of the county eventually!
Would be nice if they could put a bit of pressure on Arriva in North Kirklees. They dominate that area as much as First used to dominate Huddersfield if not more so. I've no experience with the "new" Yorkshire Buses as yet, are they decent, or sketchy as most other start-ups seem to be?
I had my first significant trips round Huddersfield since I moved away earlier this week, and it was sad to see how poor things had got compared to even ten years ago, let alone the Yorkshire Rider days.
 

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Presumably the timetable remains the same, that specified by Digs who operate Storthes Hall and contract the bus.
Wouldn't it be both University of Huddersfield and DIGS who lease out the contract? Either way looking at the new timetable there's an 0600 from Storthes Hall to the University with no return working - with the next one being at 0800 doing the full circuit (Storthes > University > Storthes). The changes to the timetable will be down to cost and how much bang for their buck that both University of Huddersfield and DIGS gets in return, although I would have at least expected some form of nightbus offering to allow students to get back to Storthes Hall from a night out whether that'd be in Huddersfield or Leeds.


To quote "mattb7tl" on the Travel West Yorkshire forum...
As somebody who frequently used the bus route, losing the contract was nowt to do with vehicle quality. If you were apart of the DIGS page, you'd see the mountain of valid complaints about controllable factors. Drivers being removed from the service altogether due to their appalling attitude. Skipping the ever so small number of stops. Leaving students stranded with bags of shopping usually for over an hour, despite making themselves very clearly visible, is simpily unacceptable.
This more or less explains why First Huddersfield lost the contract, I can imagine one stroppy driver lashing out at a student/s because they'd gone and bought the wrong type of ticket (the student/s could be from a non First operating area and certainly won't understand the West Yorkshire set up or way of things) or they'd had a go at someone carrying a foldable clothes drier claiming that there's no room when half the bus will be empty.

I still think that there's more cuts to come soon, especially with the less frequent services being relinquished and only the more frequent being retained.
 

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First have increased the 72 service today including journeys as early as 4am from Bradford and an after midnight departure from Leeds

As Bradford Interchange and Leeds City Bus Station are closed at such times, opening from 0500 to 0000 they are having to depart from the next bus stop in a late notice change

 

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First have increased the 72 service today including journeys as early as 4am from Bradford and an after midnight departure from Leeds

As Bradford Interchange and Leeds City Bus Station are closed at such times, opening from 0500 to 0000 they are having to depart from the next bus stop in a late notice change


That seems farcical - do First's planners not know when the bus stations are open?

Metro could do with updating their timetable as soon as possible as that's where many people will look.

Although at least they'll find it there. Passengers who look for it on First's Leeds site will be told there's no route 72. They need to know that it's considered to be a Bradford route - if they look there they'll find the out of date timetable from July listed as valid "until further notice" and only if they scroll further down the page will they find the correct timetable (but with no message about the services not serving the bus station).
 
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Andyh82

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That seems farcical - do First's planners not know when the bus stations are open?
I’m guessing they didn’t give it a thought as I’m not sure they’ve run buses at 4am out of Bradford before, at least not in recent decades
 

AndyHudds

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Ticketing shouldn't be an issue, students get a bus pass if they live at Storthes.

I think members of the general public are allowed to use it, there are a few houses near the Storthes Hall complex, don't quote me on that though. Obviously it only stops at Lidl, Morrisons then on to Storthes Hall so whether anyone does I don't know.
 

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As a result of the Electrics entering service at York this has released B9TLs 37676, 37677, 37678 & 37679 to Oldham Depot of which most were actually in service yesterday.
 

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I’m guessing they didn’t give it a thought as I’m not sure they’ve run buses at 4am out of Bradford before, at least not in recent decades
You'd think, having made the mistake, they'd try to make sure all the information for passengers about not using them was easy to find...
 

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A previous post (1012) refers to an extra 9 electric double deck buses for York. What are they and when are they likely to come.
Is it true what a number 10 bus driver told me this morning that the Kites will be out and about in less than 2 weeks?
 

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First York;
A previous post (1012) refers to an extra 9 electric double deck buses for York. What are they and when are they likely to come.
Is it true what a number 10 bus driver told me this morning that the Kites will be out and about in less than 2 weeks?
They are Electroliners 36521-9
 

noddingdonkey

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It's a good thing that York isn't famously prone to flooding and associated power cuts - how often do these vehicles need charging?
 

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An exception is Leicester where First electric buses are green. Mind you, so are those of CentreBus, and the Arriva ones will be green too.
Yes, part of the Enhanced Partnership agreement is a standard livery / branding across all operators
 

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anyone know why First Leeds have cut the 51, 52 at Leeds Centre and put on new 38 and 39 to serve Meanwood Road and on to Moortown? 52 and 53 Morley - Meanwood go back a long way.
 

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