delt1c
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Love the 1st class, but hate the standard class as for me feels claustrophobicClass 390. A bit controversial I know but I always have considered them very uncomfortable and ugly.
Love the 1st class, but hate the standard class as for me feels claustrophobicClass 390. A bit controversial I know but I always have considered them very uncomfortable and ugly.
Have you tried, for example, appendicitis?!
It's all a matter of personal taste but they are far less ugly than most modern locos (70s, etc.) in my opinion. More importantly they have proved to be one of the best classes produced in the 1960s, still seeing main line use today.Quite sure this'll p*ss someone off... but for me has to be any and all class 37s. Horrible to look at, and sound like you expect someone to after they've had a tin of beans
Don't worry, it may find you!I've heard all the cool kids are taking appendicitis but I have no idea where to get it
The /2s, I agree completelyExtremely controversial but 350s. Extremely overrated trains in my eyes. Also the Networkers (465s,466s) absolutely mediocre trains.
Thank you . Whilst they’re inadequate and painfully outdated, they do the job required, but I agree, the northern stock isn’t the best, I’ve never seen them as that badXC Voyagers and GWR IETs, both almost entirely lacking in redeeming features and both an utterly awful passenger experience. They could both yet be salvaged with a good internal refurbish though. Dishonorable mention for the 165/166s as well.
The 150s are the definition of “fine” for me. Post-refurb at least they’re comfortable enough for short journeys and pretty rugged and reliable. Perhaps the Northern experience of them as middle distance intercity trains has tarnished their reputation, they’re much better suited to south western branch lines!
The ones I’ll miss the most that are on the chopping block in the next decade or so are the 158s, comfortable, fast enough, and incredibly well suited to the jobs they do.
For me, the class 195/331s, I can’t stand them, for a modern train, they’re so underwhelming and lacking in key areas, I’m lucky that in the midlands we have the superior class 196s
I could honestly wax lyrical about the class 196s - I use them very frequently since TfW/WMR swapped their calling points of Sandwell and Dudley/Smethwick Galton Bridge. Comfortable seating, reasonable sized tables, decent enough ride quality, perfect ambiance and lighting, the only slight complaint I have about them is the lack of armrests, but I never really have any issues with legroom, and I’m not small either196s are an odd one. They do have a higher quality feel, but the legroom is absolutely appalling due to them having chosen a very thick-backed seat (the "niche" is a design flaw, just like it is on the original Class 158 seats, that pays no attention to male anatomy). Thus my preferred 19x is the 197, with the 195 second and the 196 third. The LEAN is a comfortable enough seat but it is very thick backed and does not lend itself to "cram 'em in".
I'd not really miss any of them though, they are cheap, basic and just adequate rather than special.
Agreed!….
The class 158 withdrawn will be a sad day, we have very few modern trains that live up to their quality
Off-topic! This is a thread about types of train that you will miss when they are withdrawn....not those that you won't miss!Fairly predictably, the 150s and 319s for me. The many issues with the 150s have been adequately covered in this thread already, whilst the 319s are thoroughly miserable, sluggish, smelly and have awful seating. 156s are far superior trains, even though they are diesel.
I'll be a happy man the day these wretched classes finally bite the dust.
Technically true; however by writing “miss the least”, it implies trains that you won’t miss. Which is why most posters - including myself - have replied as such.Off-topic! This is a thread about types of train that you will miss when they are withdrawn....not those that you won't miss!
Technically true; however by writing miss the least, it implies trains that you won’t miss. Which is why most posters - including myself - have replied as such.
I think that clearer wording could have been along the lines of “trains that you won’t be too upset to see go” or “trains that you won’t miss too much”.
Er, no. Have another look at the thread title. Train types you will miss the least when they are withdrawn.Off-topic! This is a thread about types of train that you will miss when they are withdrawn....not those that you won't miss!
Apologies....as @Bletchleyite states above there are two threads on the go with almost identical titles....and I picked the wrong one. I'll get my coat and make an appointment with Specsavers!Er, no. Have another look at the thread title. Train types you will miss the least when they are withdrawn.
If you stopped backseat moderating for a moment you'd notice it's actually you whose muddled up the thread title![]()
I thought that the above would be the worst possible suggestion in this thread, and then I read this:Mark 1 coaching stock.
Quite sure this'll p*ss someone off... but for me has to be any and all class 37s. Horrible to look at, and sound like you expect someone to after they've had a tin of beans