I guess you were being sarcastic as I'm not sure how well an artic would do on Storthes Hall Lane, the junction with Pensitone Road is a bit of roller-coaster ride followed by a prolonged climb (with some buses reputedly not making it to the top).
Got these now from as usual BLOTW (buslistsontheweb.co.uk)
Partially in regards to the Storthes Hall routes, but not the X63/363 as this is the only route which would be suitable for the Artic Citarios in West Yorkshire (the 1, 1B and the N1 Beeston/Leeds to West Park are far too busy and require the deckers and the hairpin turn in West Vale for the 503 is too sharp).
Just saying - classic the 1/1B/N1 as too busy for artics but able to cope with deckers is a paradox as artics take >40 more people than the Streetdecks...
Using bendies on the X63 would mean boarding at one of the stands on the corridor down to Westgate which are currently only used for alighting (or avoiding Huddersfield bus station entirely and using one of the town centre stops). That corridor is quite narrow and doesn't have space for benches, so having services departing from there wouldn't be the best idea. Supposedly when the bus station was refurbished around the turn of the century it was supposed to be made suitable for bendy buses, but no operator has tried to use them in Huddersfield anyway.
Hmmm.... 15 year old bendies with high fuel consumption on an intensive, hilly, inter-urban service that is perfectly happy with deckers? Not seeing it myself.
They are going for scrap. Confirmed 100% internally
Just for clarity, they aren't going onto the X63- I was just pointing out that they wouldn't really be suitable for it anyway, in response to a suggestion that they could.
For clarity back at ya.... I didn't think for a minute that YOU were suggesting it
I was agreeing with you I am not at all surprised. Old, expensive to run, non-standard, and the rumoured move to Aberdeen seemed rather speculative.
On paper at least - in reality there isn’t the physical space for a full load. Capacity is based on weight/axle load divided by an average person weight.
Trust me - with students you can get all 147 on. Been there, done it, got the t-shirt (freshers week in York we normally get all 5 working for - not this year though, 11105 already withdrawn)
There is a rumour that the Halifax ones are going to Oldham in exchange for B9s and all Oldham's E400s might go to Stagecoach when they take over. How true this is is a waiting game.
Streetdecks or GB Kites?
They were single deckers so assuming Kites.
Fleet numbers?
According to a post on 'FirstBus Enthusiasts' by Chris Munden, all that can be confirmed at the minute is 63646 - MA23 TPZ. I'd keep an eye out for the next info release on www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk (BLotW) at 9pm tonight!
No idea I'm afraid. Only passed them quickly as I boarded the ship and saw them waiting. They didn't have reg plates as far as I could see.
They could end up (in the short term at least) being used as pool vehicles and allocated to no particular route but if/when/ever an X3 is introduced between Halifax and Huddersfield (as I've been told that something is being done to the route this year) then the Enviro400's could be allocated to that, new route = new buses.
The latter, possibly about to be used on Leeds festival shuttles?
I can understand wanting buses to stop at your local stop, but it's not up to each driver and they may get in trouble if they oblige. To have any chance he needs to discuss with the company through their official channels.
The original York P&R services were mainly 'local services' which also served the Park & Ride. This had the benefit of providing a higher frequency local service than perhaps was commercially viable. However the 59 is a newer route and as it overlaps the frequent 5/5A it was presumably decided not to abstract from this service. Unfortunately post COVID the timetable of the 5/5A has become dire (if anyone can describe the frequency, well done)
