Southern Class 313 withdrawal/storage/scrapping updates

[physics34]

2x 313s were couple together at selhurst this morning. I THINK 220 was one of them

 

[that1pepfan]

2x 313s were couple together at selhurst this morning. I THINK 220 was one of them

Oooh lovely is there any ideas when they'll move then

 

[PGAT]

Looking at the Southern website the December timetable doesn't seem to affect the 313s in any way

 

[XCTurbostar]

Looking at the Southern website the December timetable doesn't seem to affect the 313s in any way

Could be a May 2023 casualty then?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

From what I saw today; also, there was a 377 substitution on a 313 Pompy - Brighton diagram

They're starting to creep in....

 

[Dart34518]

Absolutely awful condition inside and out

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Do you know what has happened to 313202

202 will be back out, hopefully next week.

 

[KJCross1983]

I can confirm that three Class 313 fleet
diagrams will be removed from December when the timetable changes. In their place
we’ll introduce three Class 377s that can be released from elsewhere in the fleet.

 

[that1pepfan]

202 will be back out, hopefully next week.

Omg yesss I haven't seen it since it last was out

 

[WizCastro197]

I can confirm that three Class 313 fleet
diagrams will be removed from December when the timetable changes. In their place
we’ll introduce three Class 377s that can be released from elsewhere in the fleet.

Source if you don't mind me asking?

 

[SNDave]

Source if you don't mind me asking?

Internal company memo, issued on 21st Sep 2022...

 

[brad465]

I can confirm that three Class 313 fleet
diagrams will be removed from December when the timetable changes. In their place
we’ll introduce three Class 377s that can be released from elsewhere in the fleet.

Is there any further news on if/when some 377/5s will return from Southeastern, as previously expected when 313s are fully withdrawn?

 

[that1pepfan]

313211 and 313208

313210 and 313219

The 2 pairs of 6 coaches on Lewes shuttles

 

[TST2022]

313211 and 313208

313210 and 313219

The 2 pairs of 6 coaches on Lewes shuttles

Yep I can confirm I saw these too

 

[physics34]

313216 and 313220 are the ones at Selhurst. 216 was on the wheel lathe last night, 220 was languishing on what i believe is called '13 road'.

 

[03_179]

313216 and 313220 are the ones at Selhurst. 216 was on the wheel lathe last night, 220 was languishing on what i believe is called '13 road'.

220 is on 19 road just to the right of the Repair Shop.
19rd is a 3 car only road.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Is there any further news on if/when some 377/5s will return from Southeastern, as previously expected when 313s are fully withdrawn?

This will be when the 707s are released from SWR by new 701s. At the moment it is undated but it is hoped with driver training on 701s starting it’ll happen within the first half of 2023.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Maybe 220 was the horse; insurance in case 216 broke down en-route ...

 

[physics34]

220 is on 19 road just to the right of the Repair Shop.
19rd is a 3 car only road.

Thanks

 

[that1pepfan]

Is 202 coming out this week

 

[D7672]

1st class 313x3 to be withdrawn next month until April phase out of the class

 

[WizCastro197]

1st class 313x3 to be withdrawn next month until April phase out of the class

Source?

 

[that1pepfan]

1st class 313x3 to be withdrawn next month until April phase out of the class

Any ideas on what unit

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Today

377319 on seaford branch and 377303 on hove service

 

[HamworthyGoods]

Indeed, Southern are no longer on the market for extra stock is the vibe from the ROSCOs.

An April withdrawal date would tie in with next years Annual Business Plan which is expected to so cuts for most TOCs so that sits neatly with removing the cl313 fleet through efficiencies elsewhere to cascade other stock internally.

 

[paul1609]

I was on the 22.44 to Brighton from Portsmouth last night. Seemed a big ask for the 313 to get to Brighton let alone next April. Locals audibly groan now when they approach the platform, cant go soon enough

 

[Islineclear3_1]

313.213 stabled Wall Siding today

 

[that1pepfan]

I was on the 22.44 to Brighton from Portsmouth last night. Seemed a big ask for the 313 to get to Brighton let alone next April. Locals audibly groan now when they approach the platform, cant go soon enough

I'd be happy if a 313 turned up

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I'd be happy if a 313 turned up

You're in the minority I promise you, and I don't think I'm unreasonable in assuming you wouldn't think that if you weren't A) a rail enthusiast (although even many of them hate 313s) and B) a "pep fan."

 

[WizCastro197]

You're in the minority I promise you, and I don't think I'm unreasonable in assuming you wouldn't think that if you weren't A) a rail enthusiast (although even many of them hate 313s) and B) a "pep fan."

What is a Pep Fan?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

What is a Pep Fan?

PEP tends to refer to 313/314/315/507/508, although one member has a signature which strangely insists these classes are NOT PEPs, which confuses me because if those trains aren't PEPs then I'm not sure which ones are. Might be @prod_pep from memory.

 

[that1pepfan]

PEP tends to refer to 313/314/315/507/508, although one member has a signature which strangely insists these classes are NOT PEPs, although if those trains aren't then I'm not sure what are. Might be @prod_pep from memory.

The "pep" is a prototype and the 313 was built of of it.. I know it's not a pep it's just a nickname