Bletchleyite
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Only being "guarded" by managers yet, no agreement on train managers for the required conversion course.
Meanwhile, in the real world of every other employer...
What is the difference from the traincrew point of view?
Only being "guarded" by managers yet, no agreement on train managers for the required conversion course.
Safety equipment, presumablyMeanwhile, in the real world of every other employer...
What is the difference from the traincrew point of view?
Which would explain why it did Manchester - Euston first thing, spent the day at Wembley and then returned to Manchester in the evening instead of whizzing up and down all day.Reportedly only being "guarded" by managers yet, no agreement on train managers for the required conversion course. Would have thought that would have broken dk1s rules for impressiveness...
Hopefully not, or us Scots will be waiting a while!Is it on the same diagram all week?
I have no idea but looking at RTT it appears to have had a diagram created for it especially. The unit that forms 1R02 normally then forms 1F12 08:07 - Liverpool. This morning it just went ECS to Wembley and stayed there until approx 18:00.Is it on the same diagram all week?
God those things are so terrible. Way too loud and chipper at 6am or 10pm and they play them far too often.have the onboard announcements changed from the irritating virgin ones which miss out the last station whilst calling the stopping pattern (very annoying aha)
Strange post 469 earlier, then, how do you reconcile them? (Post 469 reports the new set working 1F12)I have no idea but looking at RTT it appears to have had a diagram created for it especially. The unit that forms 1R02 normally then forms 1F12 08:07 - Liverpool. This morning it just went ECS to Wembley and stayed there until approx 18:00.
You’ve lost me old bean.Reportedly only being "guarded" by managers yet, no agreement on train managers for the required conversion course. Would have thought that would have broken dk1s rules for impressiveness...
Just waiting for the connection to the water recycling plant (direct from the bog) to be installed.Agreed, very innovative and look forward to trying it out - just a shame it’s not yet ready for use yet!
How do I account for it? Me being stupid by the looks of it. I did an RTT search earlier in the day for that unit and its next working was shown as Wembley - Euston. Tracing it now RTT shows it as working 1F12 but the return working was unallocated, as was the ECS to Wembley so I made an incorrect assumption it had gone straight to Wembley.Strange post 469 earlier, then, how do you reconcile them? (Post 469 reports the new set working 1F12)
Thank you, I quite understand where you came from, but it's nice to be able to sort this out!That's quite bizarre then.
How do I account for it? Me being stupid by the looks of it. I did an RTT search earlier in the day for that unit and its next working was shown as Wembley - Euston. Tracing it now RTT shows it as working 1F12 but the return working was unallocated, as was the ECS to Wembley so I made an incorrect assumption it had gone straight to Wembley.
I was on 1F12 this morning and defintley had the refurbished pendolino. Hopefully its on 1F12 for the rest of the week!That's quite bizarre then.
How do I account for it? Me being stupid by the looks of it. I did an RTT search earlier in the day for that unit and its next working was shown as Wembley - Euston. Tracing it now RTT shows it as working 1F12 but the return working was unallocated, as was the ECS to Wembley so I made an incorrect assumption it had gone straight to Wembley.
Noticed on one of the Twitter pics that the ceiling is littered with CCTV cameras - probably about 10 per coach - why so many?
Nice video here to appreciate the refreshed standard class. Still has that warm cosiness.
I have to say that the Pendolinos are really our only class that can compete with European stock to give that true InterCity Express feeling. All the 800x just feel like people-movers to me. No magic to them.
Can anyone confirm if the lightining really does change tone throughout the day?
Noticed on one of the Twitter pics that the ceiling is littered with CCTV cameras - probably about 10 per coach - why so many?
Press release, with some decent interior shots: https://newsdesk.avantiwestcoast.co...ils-as-part-of-uks-biggest-ever-train-upgrade
Also includes images of the seat occupancy being displayed on the PIS, as well as the seat occupancy cameras mounted in the ceiling. And wireless chargers on slippy looking tables, should be lots of phones on the floor![]()
Are they not the seat occupancy cameras? From the presspack:
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Seat Occupancy Cameras - Refurbished Pendolino | Avanti West Coast News
News from Avanti West Coastnewsdesk.avantiwestcoast.co.uk

Or do ticket checks from a screen in the rear cab?Thanks. I did think actual CCTV pointed at every seat was a bit invasive, the guard could nose at what book you were reading!![]()

Or do ticket checks from a screen in the rear cab?![]()

I was one the train earlier, and didn't even notice there were things that looked like cameras or CCTV so I doubt it to be honest.
I wonder if it might actually reduce antisocial behaviour as people will think it is general CCTV?
Nope, see 0:28have the onboard announcements changed from the irritating virgin ones which miss out the last station whilst calling the stopping pattern (very annoying aha)
have the onboard announcements changed from the irritating virgin ones which miss out the last station whilst calling the stopping pattern (very annoying aha)
The rattles are back!Nope, see 0:28
Looks fresh, I like it! Nice to have plugs and USB A at every seat,
I am a bit surprised not to see USB C on some conversions, but I guess as they're small they may be a lot less robust so USB A is likely to be around for a long while yet.