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Class 365 scrap movements + preservation discussion

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Are the PRM related mods salvaged before scrap? The toilets for instance?
No toilets remain in situ. However the
gsmr radios do get salvaged and rescued before scrap obvious reasons.
However due to clearance issues the steps ie platform boarding steps from the units themselves have been removed in order to go for scrap so they have been. However when going for scrap I noticed one 365 unit had them all dumped in the secondmans side inside the drivers cab.
 

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142s went for scrap with all the equipment in place including GSMR, OTMR etc, sadly I think 365s would be the same. Everything through the shredder.
 

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Simply not worth having all that scruffy inventory sitting around 'just in case.' Who pays, it's worthless as insurance goes, and besides, the 365 seats weren't owned by the 165, 166 and 465/2 owners anyway.
Put them on ebay and if they don't go, dispose. If they do, extra income!
 

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Put them on ebay and if they don't go, dispose. If they do, extra income!
But that requires the manpower of removing them all and trying to sell them. Whereas the way it’s done now is they just drive them into the big coke can making machine!
 

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I think DMOC 65919 has been removed to somewhere as the videos showing the aerial view of wolverton works (even as recent as 2021), the carriage is not there.
 

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But that requires the manpower of removing them all and trying to sell them. Whereas the way it’s done now is they just drive them into the big coke can making machine!
No, you only remove them if they sell and include removal cost in the reserve prince.
 

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No, you only remove them if they sell and include removal cost in the reserve prince.
And keep the carriages hanging around for an indefinite amount of time until it is decided they are not required and need scrapping anyway?
 

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And keep the carriages hanging around for an indefinite amount of time until it is decided they are not required and need scrapping anyway?
It has taken about six months to scrap the fleet. That would have been plenty of time to offer reusable parts for sale.
 

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It has taken about six months to scrap the fleet. That would have been plenty of time to offer reusable parts for sale.
Offer them to who? And how many staff are you going to employ to run the sales, strip parts, handle logistics etc. Is there really any kind of economic case for it?
 

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It has taken about six months to scrap the fleet. That would have been plenty of time to offer reusable parts for sale.
Trouble is none off these parts are compatible with anything else. Why keep them in reserve for a whole fleet going for scrap apart from the one in preservation. Especially as not one off these are in mainline service anymore.
Only possible alternative could possibly have been recycling iff it was cost effective enough to do it.
 

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Offer them to who? And how many staff are you going to employ to run the sales, strip parts, handle logistics etc. Is there really any kind of economic case for it?

This and this again. I work in IT and have been looking to move on some old (but perfectly serviceable and will still be used in some parts) laptop docks, rather than sending them to recycling. No-one wants them and those that do wanted money to take and process them (same as for recycling)

We could stick them on Ebay, but the fact of the matter is that it just isn't worth our while for what little return we may get if they did sell (and the liabilities/cost for packaging up for shipping) so to the "bin" they will probably go!

Trouble is none off these parts are compatible with anything else. Why keep them in reserve for a whole fleet going for scrap apart from the one in preservation. Especially as not one off these are in mainline service anymore.
Only possible alternative could possibly have been recycling iff it was cost effective enough to do it.

The only potential use is in the enthusiast market, but it is so niche, it wouldn't be financially viable either
 

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Offer them to who? And how many staff are you going to employ to run the sales, strip parts, handle logistics etc. Is there really any kind of economic case for it?
I do generally agree, however the market for airline memorabilia from recently retired iconic machines has been staggering, with prices for even simple parts being customised running to hundreds.
Good luck to whoever makes a railway equivalent of Plane Reclaimers!
 
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