SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

[Class455]

Presumably gone to Newport?

I think it's actually gone to Long Marston. As far as I'm aware no SWR units have been sent to Newport yet.

 

[47444]

If I have kept up, this should leave 456 002, 004, 017 and 023 on SWR - is this right or have they already gone to Long Marston as well?

 

[Razorblades]

If I have kept up, this should leave 456 002, 004, 017 and 023 on SWR - is this right or have they already gone to Long Marston as well?

The only one I've not recorded of those having yet departed is 017 still at WD.

 

[47444]

The only one I've not recorded of those having yet departed is 017 still at WD.

Thanks

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

So 017 is the only one still on SWR turf?

 

[Siemens Staines]

Posted elsewhere is a photo of 1 vehicle of 456001 arriving at the gates to Newport Docks this morning.

In terms of long term out of service units, the following have now been out of passenger use (from RTT) for over a month. This is in addition to those already mentioned.

458533 (28/01)
455719 (27/01)

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Posted elsewhere is a photo of 1 vehicle of 456001 arriving at the gates to Newport Docks this morning.

In terms of long term out of service units, the following have now been out of passenger use (from RTT) for over a month. This is in addition to those already mentioned.

458533 (28/01)
455719 (27/01)

I’ll do another list very soon then

 

[warwickshire]

So 017 is the only one still on SWR turf?

Yes it is .
All else has gone.

 

[warwickshire]

The only one I've not recorded of those having yet departed is 017 still at WD.

That is most certainly correct.

 

[warwickshire]

If I have kept up, this should leave 456 002, 004, 017 and 023 on SWR - is this right or have they already gone to Long Marston as well?

Apart from 456017 at long marston.

 

[43096]

Presumably gone to Newport?

All the others (I think including one by road?) have gone to Long Marston.

I think it's actually gone to Long Marston. As far as I'm aware no SWR units have been sent to Newport yet.

Humble pie time: @theblackwatch is right (as usual!). There’s a photo on another forum of a car from 456001 outside the gates at Sims, Newport. 456005 also reported as having gone the same way on Monday.

 

[Towers]

5859 and 5912 are going to Bournemouth for exam work on Wednesday, I would reckon they will be on the 5B39 path. I would then also bet on 5708 and 5734 having been completed and returning with the same driver on 5Y51.
Bournemouth cannot carry out all work arising as they don't have the competency* or materials for all jobs, so there might be a couple of bits to do but I would imaging 5708/34 to re-enter the fray in the not too distant future.

5734 confirmed as the rear unit of 5Y51 this afternoon, currently approaching Winchester.

 

[Siemens Staines]

5734 confirmed as the rear unit of 5Y51 this afternoon, currently approaching Winchester.

As WarrenTManager predicted, 5Y51 is shown on RTT as 455708+455734. 5B39 did run but the units are not identified on RTT, but surely must be 455859+455912 as stated.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Humble pie time: @theblackwatch is right (as usual!). There’s a photo on another forum of a car from 456001 outside the gates at Sims, Newport. 456005 also reported as having gone the same way on Monday.

They don't hang around there as we know, so those'll be scrapped within days I assume.

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Saturday, January 29th 2021
Updated list


455701 Operational with SWR
455702 Operational with SWR
455703 Operational with SWR
455704 Withdrawn, Long Marston
455705 Operational with SWR
455706 Operational with SWR
455707 Operational with SWR
455708 Returned from Bournemouth, should return to service.
455709 Operational with SWR
455710 Operational with SWR
455711 Operational with SWR
455712 Operational with SWR
455713 Operational with SWR
455714 Operational with SWR
455715 Operational with SWR
455716 Operational with SWR
455717 Operational with SWR
455718 Operational with SWR
455719 Long-term out of use
455720 Operational with SWR
455721 Operational with SWR
455722 Operational with SWR
455723 Operational with SWR
455724 Operational with SWR
455725 Operational with SWR
455726 Withdrawn, Long Marston
455727 Operational with SWR
455728 Operational with SWR
455729 Operational with SWR
455730 Operational with SWR
455731 Operational with SWR
455732 Operational with SWR
455733 Operational with SWR
455734 Returned from Bournemouth, should return to service.
455735 Operational with SWR
455736 Withdrawn, Long Marston
455737 Operational with SWR
455738 Temporarily out of use (exam)
455739 Operational with SWR
455740 Wimbledon's Christmas Tree
455741 Operational with SWR
455742 Operational with SWR
455750 Operational with SWR

455847 Withdrawn, Long Marston
455848 Long-term out of use
455849 Operational with SWR
455850 Operational with SWR
455851 Operational with SWR
455852 Operational with SWR
455853 Operational with SWR
455854 Operational with SWR
455855 Withdrawn
455856 Operational with SWR
455857 Operational with SWR
455858 Operational with SWR
455859 Temporarily out of use (exam)
455860 Operational with SWR
455861 Operational with SWR
455862 Operational with SWR
455863 Long-term out of use
455864 Operational with SWR
455865 Operational with SWR
455866 Operational with SWR
455867 Operational with SWR
455868 Operational with SWR
455869 Operational with SWR
455870 Operational with SWR
455871 Operational with SWR
455872 Operational with SWR
455873 Operational with SWR
455874 Operational with SWR

455901 Operational with SWR
455902 Operational with SWR
455903 Operational with SWR
455904 Operational with SWR
455905 Operational with SWR
455906 Operational with SWR
455907 Operational with SWR
455908 Operational with SWR
455909 Operational with SWR
455910 Operational with SWR
455911 Operational with SWR
455912 Temporarily out of use (exam)
455913 Long-term out of use
455914 Operational with SWR
455915 Operational with SWR
455916 Operational with SWR
455917 Operational with SWR
455918 Operational with SWR
455919 Operational with SWR
455920 Operational with SWR

456001 SCRAPPED, Newport
456002 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456003 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456004 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456005 SCRAPPED, Newport
456006 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456007 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456008 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456009 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456010 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456011 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456012 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456013 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456014 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456015 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456016 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456017 Withdrawn
456018 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456019 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456020 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456021 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456022 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456023 Withdrawn, Long Marston
456024 Withdrawn, Long Marston

458501 Operational with SWR
458502 Operational with SWR
458503 Operational with SWR
458504 Long-term out of use
458505 Operational with SWR
458506 Long-term out of use (traction investigation)
458007 Withdrawn, Long Marston
458508 Operational with SWR
458509 Operational with SWR
458510 Operational with SWR
458511 Operational with SWR
458512 Operational with SWR
458513 Operational with SWR
458514 Operational with SWR
458515 Operational with SWR
458516 Operational with SWR
458017 Withdrawn, Long Marston
458518 Operational with SWR
458519 Operational with SWR
458520 Operational with SWR
458521 Operational with SWR
458522 Long-term out of use
458523 Operational with SWR
458524 Operational with SWR
458525 Operational with SWR
458526 Operational with SWR
458527 Operational with SWR
458528 Operational with SWR
458529 Long-term out of use
458530 Operational with SWR
458531 Operational with SWR
458532 Operational with SWR
458533 Long-term out of use (awaiting parts)
458534 Withdrawn
458535 Long-term out of use (awaiting parts)
458536 Operational with SWR

707001 Withdrawn, now with SE
707002 Withdrawn, now with SE
707003 Withdrawn, now with SE
707004 Withdrawn, now with SE
707005 Withdrawn, now with SE
707006 Withdrawn, now with SE
707007 Withdrawn, now with SE
707008 Withdrawn, now with SE
707009 Withdrawn, now with SE
707010 Withdrawn, now with SE
707011 Withdrawn, now with SE
707012 Withdrawn, now with SE
707013 Withdrawn, now with SE
707014 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707015 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707016 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707017 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707018 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707019 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707020 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707021 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707022 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707023 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707024 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22
707025 Withdrawn, now with SE
707026 Withdrawn, now with SE
707027 Withdrawn, now with SE
707028 Withdrawn, now with SE
707029 Withdrawn, now with SE
707030 Operational with SWR Leaving Aug 22


A random selection of Class 450 units generally used on outer-suburban services also operate some Reading, Weybridge & Windsor services.
Those at Newport Docks shown as scrapped because it never takes long

List denotes the current status of SWR's Metro / Inner-Suburban fleet as of 2/3/2022, according to information sourced by forum members.

 

[WarrenTManager]

So 017 is the only one still on SWR turf?

As WarrenTManager predicted, 5Y51 is shown on RTT as 455708+455734. 5B39 did run but the units are not identified on RTT, but surely must be 455859+455912 as stated.

5B39 was 5859/5912.

6017 now on trailers for Newport at Wimbledon Park.

8504 might be powered up this week, but still a few parts to come.

5719's wheelset has arrived. Just awaiting a slot for a lift.

5738 has been in traffic for the last four weeks

 

[Towers]

Presumably the 456s being fast tracked to Newport is on the basis that they're demic and would be unfit for a return to service even if required; do we know if the rest are still expected to spend a year or so in warm storage before they get the chop?

 

[theblackwatch]

Humble pie time: @theblackwatch is right (as usual!). There’s a photo on another forum of a car from 456001 outside the gates at Sims, Newport. 456005 also reported as having gone the same way on Monday.

Thanks, although unfortunately I can't claim to be correct 100% of the time (but do my best!)

 

[Class455]

Humble pie time: @theblackwatch is right (as usual!). There’s a photo on another forum of a car from 456001 outside the gates at Sims, Newport. 456005 also reported as having gone the same way on Monday.

Have you got a link to the pictures please?

 

[Notchapple]

Have you got a link to the pictures please?

Taken from that forum, posted by the user NewportLad

 

[Towers]

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Taken from that forum, posted by the user NewportLad

Sad to see it going in looking fully intact, I was under the impression that the ones going straight to the chophouse were demics?

 

[Goldfish62]

Sad to see it going in looking fully intact, I was under the impression that the ones going straight to the chophouse were demics?

I would certainly hope the Grammer seats get saved for further use. They're only a few years old.

 

[WarrenTManager]

Sad to see it going in looking fully intact, I was under the impression that the ones going straight to the chophouse were demics?

6001 had a severe traction motor failure.
6005 had a severe traction motor failure and needed at least one wheelset.
6017 needed wheelsets.

 

[swt_passenger]

Sad to see it going in looking fully intact, I was under the impression that the ones going straight to the chophouse were demics?

I don’t think there’s much of a direct relationship between how they look and whether or not they work.

 

[Towers]

I don’t think there’s much of a direct relationship between how they look and whether or not they work.

A fair point! But in all seriousness, you'd often expect some robbing of parts or whatever, particularly given how interchangeable a lot of the components must be with the 455s!

 

[WarrenTManager]

A fair point! But in all seriousness, you'd often expect some robbing of parts or whatever, particularly given how interchangeable a lot of the components must be with the 455s!

There's not much the same apart from GSM-R, Wi-Fi, some of the PIS and CCTV and the compressor and anti-roll bar link. The motors are DC, traction equipment different, MA looks like the 455/8 BX but is the 319 BV type. Light clusters are LED. Bogies are different being P7 and T3 not BT13/BX1/BP27. A lot of the relays changed on 455 during the 2000s refurb, 456s still retained a lot of the original Square D relays, interior lighting is LED on 456, brake control is different still having old Davies & Metcalfe gear, 455s now having Knorr-Bremse equipment like Juniper and Electrostar.

 

[Towers]

There's not much the same apart from GSM-R, Wi-Fi, some of the PIS and CCTV and the compressor and anti-roll bar link. The motors are DC, traction equipment different, MA looks like the 455/8 BX but is the 319 BV type. Light clusters are LED. Bogies are different being P7 and T3 not BT13/BX1/BP27. A lot of the relays changed on 455 during the 2000s refurb, 456s still retained a lot of the original Square D relays, interior lighting is LED on 456, brake control is different still having old Davies & Metcalfe gear, 455s now having Knorr-Bremse equipment like Juniper and Electrostar.

I was thinking more along the lines of the less fancy stuff; doors, windows, even the light clusters etc! Wimbledon must get through a fair few bodyside windows I'd have thought! I presume much of that lot is generic 'MK3 unit' fit?

 

[Bigfoot]

There's not much the same apart from GSM-R, Wi-Fi, some of the PIS and CCTV and the compressor and anti-roll bar link. The motors are DC, traction equipment different, MA looks like the 455/8 BX but is the 319 BV type. Light clusters are LED. Bogies are different being P7 and T3 not BT13/BX1/BP27. A lot of the relays changed on 455 during the 2000s refurb, 456s still retained a lot of the original Square D relays, interior lighting is LED on 456, brake control is different still having old Davies & Metcalfe gear, 455s now having Knorr-Bremse equipment like Juniper and Electrostar.

Think this sums up just how different two very similar units in appearance are in reality.

I was thinking more along the lines of the less fancy stuff; doors, windows, even the light clusters etc! Wimbledon must get through a fair few bodyside windows I'd have thought! I presume much of that lot is generic 'MK3 unit' fit?

Light clusters are completely different between the two classes.

The other thing to remember is that they are owned by Porterbrook. They are the ones who ultimately control where/what happens to the parts.

 

[WesternBiker]

8504 might be powered up this week, but still a few parts to come.

Good to hear - it’s my last spot of the 458s (and I’ve not been able to see it at Wimbledon).

 

[swr444]

Good to hear - it’s my last spot of the 458s (and I’ve not been able to see it at Wimbledon).

Feel like I might have worked it the other day? Had a very nice clean front. Might be mistake though

 

[WarrenTManager]

Feel like I might have worked it the other day? Had a very nice clean front. Might be mistake though

Still on depot. Moved from 12 road on 11 in the main shed. Not ready for service yet.