Why is it insensitive now in particular? As people keep saying, there are wars around the world almost every year. Is it because Ukraine is "white" so more like "us"?
Strange I was born a year after you.
Which literally no one has ever said. There's enough things to be angry about without having to invent things
One of the reasons Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter got away with their behaviour for so long was that no one was prepared to believe victims. That was because many people did not believe such things ever happened so the accusation was beyond comprehension. Nowadays we are much more aware of paedophilia and the risks to children. That did not happen because such things were swept under the carpet.
I don’t say that - though I wish they’d never been invented.
Oh yes, complete with Teddy Boys with their flick knives, pitched battles on seaside railways between mods and motorcycle chain weilding rockers and everyone smoking Woodbines of course !
It seems to me that some people want to sweep the past under the carpet in the belief that it will then never happen again. We need to remember the past so as to be able to learn the lessons.
Fair point.
We also need to remember that the railway is very short of volunteers post covid for various reasons and running the event was already on a knife edge, so any risk of volunteer drop out could not be risked.
Which takes us back to the question of why at the moment? To repeat: there's always been wars going on, so why now - is it because Ukrainians are white and like us?
They can, but there has to be an event to run, and there isn’t in this case because the people organising it didn’t feel it struck the right tone with recent events. People are getting all het up about a single event being cancelled because the people who created it no longer thought it was appropriate. They cancelled it - nobody else did.
Seconded.
I think you are trying to make it a race issue when it isn’t. I was the first on this thread to ask why it should be considered insensitive now when past events have taken place when there have been wars going on, but I don’t think it is due to race. I think it is due to the blanket media coverage of this conflict. As the last 2 years have highlighted, though it was common before that, many people think what the media tells them to think. If the war in Yemen isn’t covered by the media then it isn’t important. The war in Ukraine is getting huge coverage therefore it is important.
I said it earlier and I'll say it again: organisers cancelling an event because they feel that the timing is no longer appropriate is nowhere near to "[sweeping] the past under the carpet".
Exactly this.
Absolutely. Also there is a greater than zero chance that British forces will end up involved, whilst obviously they fought and died in Iraq and Afghanistan, a European land war is an entirely different matter
Which sort of proves my point. An article in the media says something therefore it is true. Although I think you will find it says different to almost all other wars, not all of them. Regardless, the level of threat to world stability has literally nothing to do with whether holding a 19040s weekend is more or less insensitive during this war than any other.
No it is because a major military power is embarking on an unprovoked attack on a neighbouring country quite clearly in an endeavour to absorb that country. For a parallel we have to look back to the Nazi invasion of Poland and where that lead us (World War Two). Whether that means the WW2 enactment should be frowned upon is then another argument.
I did not mean I was criticising the organisers for cancelling. I was pointing out, to those who think it should be cancelled, that history should not be swept under the carpet.
That is a good find to explain why the Ukraine conflict is different.It's not a case of thinking what the media tells us. This is getting huge coverage, BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE EVENT! Russia has launched a full scale invasion of Ukraine. For once I wish people would look past race, something a lot of posters on here fail to do.
For those of you struggling to understand why this war is different I've found this article from the New York Times which I feel explains it.
Why Ukraine Is Different (Published 2022)
A Russian invasion of Ukraine would be unlike most wars in 80 years.www.nytimes.com
For those who can't access or don't wish to read the full article, I've included a few quotes below.
This is why this is different and maybe it's not the right time for 1940s events celebrating World War 2.
Oh, modern day LNER are recreating that perfectly well.
What you posted wasn't fact. It was opinion. The war hadn't even started when that article was published.
I meant Goering, in context, and yes, there have been those events reported. Indeed, any event that includes an element in which part of the railway is portrayed as in occupied Europe fails a morality test.
I completely agree.
