Not neccasarily linked, but one of the Mark 4s that had been stripped for parts left Doncaster Wabtec by road today for scrap. Destination believed to be Booths in Rotherham.
I suspect 91109 needs some tlc - it was on the diagram to work last Wednesday's 1D30, which was cancelled due to "a problem with the train".
Around 15:30 the Thomas Hill pilot "Pammy" attached to the south end of 91104 + 91108, dragged them into the south end headshunt and then propelled them into the south end of the works somewhere, disappearing from view behind Denison House. (A flickr search for "Wabtec Pammy" brings up various pics of that pilot loco for anyone curious)
I'm surprised there's still anything of use left to take from 108!
2x5 vice 1x9 or vice versa? Who would drive a Mk4 North of Newcastle.
It’s going via Carlisle, so AIUI cannot be a 91/mk 4 set.
Sorry, I had no idea it was taking that route!
The swap will have been either from a 9 car to 10 car 80x formation or vice versa. LNER sometimes use the same wording in emails to customers for those swaps as they do for 80x-Mark 4 swaps on the Leeds route.
Even of it was going normal route via Berwick it still wouldn't be a Mk4.
Yeah, they could word it specific to the actual change eg 9 to a 10 etc, then people clearly know what the email means.
That's what confused me.
They already do that sometimes, where they say “different type of Azuma” or something along those lines.
The two formations have little in common seating layout wise. A 9 car is formed A-B-C-G-H-J-K-L-M, whereas a 10 car is formed A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-K-M. Of the coaches the exist on both formations, only coaches C, G and H have the same layout, coaches A (wheelchair space replaced by seats on a 10 car), B (Shop replaced by seats on a 9 car), K (different split of first-standard seating) and M (different size kitchens) have a different layout on the two formations.
different interior layouts. Pretty sure 5 car sets have shorter carriages but dont quote me on that
They don't. You might be thinking of the fact 2x5 has roughly the same number of seats as a 9 car, due to the wasted space of the additional cabs etc.
Yeah i must be
Why do they cancel all reservations when this happens, rather than just issuing new ones for the revised layout?
They can only do that if booked through lner.
I booked my tickets through LNER
Which leaves the others where? With the way the sets are lettered, it's almost inevitable that they handle it like that rather than deal with a host of "you're in my seat/no I'm not" debates at every pick up point.
They are doing a trial on selected trains where if alters they allocate u anther seat and email you.
It should be possible for LNER to notify other retailers of such changes for them to pass on to the customers. That said, especially once reservations from TVMs and Ticket Offices are taken into account where nobody has any contact details for the reservation holder, it's more hassle than it's worth and it's overall better to cancel reservations.
I understand Virgin EC wanted to try this, but some other retailers were not willing to play ball.
Doesn’t surprise me. Some of the retailers can be useless at the best of times.
Yes it went to Nevill Hill. Loco needs to go to Wabtec, so will be loco hauled with 91101 on a skate, sometime over weekend or early next week.
LNER must be notified by the retailers when a ticket is sold so that no-one reserves the same seat twice. In the interests of customer service you would think that they could work out a way of reissuing reservations and notifying everyone!
