Elecman
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As opposed to Lostock Hall or Lostock GralamLostock very occasionally becomes Lostock Parkway.
As opposed to Lostock Hall or Lostock GralamLostock very occasionally becomes Lostock Parkway.
Does it still have both versions of the station sign on the platforms?Cross Gates/Crossgates, at least back in the 90s.
I remember an Oxford station announcer in Thames Trains days announcing that the next Bicester Town train would stop at "Islip International Parkway"...Lostock very occasionally becomes Lostock Parkway.
Cross Gates/Crossgates, at least back in the 90s.
Lostock very occasionally becomes Lostock Parkway.
Many villages simply didn't have an official spelling. The railway chose one and usually others fell into line. Handborough was one exception - the railway-chosen spelling didn't stick, and the villagers/local authorities dropped the D. (Strictly speaking there's no single village called Hanborough, but one called Long Hanborough and another called Church Hanborough, though they're run by a single Hanborough Parish Council.)Han(d)borough?
I think this came up some years ago, but I forget the explanation now - sorry!
In 1984 it was definitely Han*d*borough. A look at old timetables from 1965, 1973 and 1981 also reveals that spelling.
Sometime in the 80s, it changed name from Handborough to Hanborough and has remained that way since. Perhaps around the time it started receiving regular services, rather than peak-only.
It looks like the actual village may have changed name at some point (though I'm not sure when), as a 1945-55 map reveals that it was spelt 'Handborough'. So it looks like for some reason the village changed its name at some point in the 20th century, and the station then followed sometime later.
St Albans City now seems to use that name, however in the 1990s was very much simply “St Albans”. Personally I think the full name is preferable as it differentiates it from the Abbey station, however does anyone know when / why the shift seems to have occurred? Slightly academic locally of course as everyone just says “city station”!
Bedford - CRS Code is BFM
St James' Park, or St James's Park.
I assume we are discussing multiple names officially used for stations rather than colloquial ones? That would give a lot of localisms (Portsmouth Harbour - the harbour, Portsmouth & Southsea - the city)
‘Formally’, the change happened around 2014. That’s when the announcements changed. Possibly when GTR took over? However the station code is SAC, so in one respect it has always been.
However, it is very rare for it to be described as ‘City’ station locally. I can’t think of a time when I have heard it called as such. There’s two stations: the station (which everyone uses) and the Abbey station (which very few people from St Albans do). Anyone referring to ‘City’ station is usually referring to City Thameslink.
‘Formally’, the change happened around 2014. That’s when the announcements changed. Possibly when GTR took over? However the station code is SAC, so in one respect it has always been.
However, it is very rare for it to be described as ‘City’ station locally. I can’t think of a time when I have heard it called as such. There’s two stations: the station (which everyone uses) and the Abbey station (which very few people from St Albans do). Anyone referring to ‘City’ station is usually referring to City Thameslink.
BDM surely?
Many villages simply didn't have an official spelling. The railway chose one and usually others fell into line. Handborough was one exception - the railway-chosen spelling didn't stick, and the villagers/local authorities dropped the D. (Strictly speaking there's no single village called Hanborough, but one called Long Hanborough and another called Church Hanborough, though they're run by a single Hanborough Parish Council.)
Eventually the railway fell into line (in the 90s, I think). Mostly, at any rate... the three-letter code is still HND.
Whittlesey (town)/Whittlesea (station) is one example where the railway and town still differ. And although it doesn't have a station any more, Bletchingdon, not too far from Hanborough, still preserves the difference: the village is '-don', but the aggregates company based at the station yard is still "Smiths of Bletchington".
Newcastle seems to be called simply "Newcastle" in most railway contexts but is almost always referred to as "Central Station" locally (and on the Metro network). I have sometimes heard it announced (manually) on trains as "Newcastle Central".
There are then a few which are almost always referred to with one name but have a suffix applied very occasionally - Carlisle Citadel for instance.
Letchworth Garden City used to be just Letchworth, until they changed it. everyone i know still calls it Letchworth. Couldn't see the point in the change really. OK Welyn Garden City - yes as there is also a Welyn North.
That's strange, when I lived there in the late 90s it was always City Station, that's what people asked for a ticket to on the bus or whatever.However, it is very rare for it to be described as ‘City’ station locally. I can’t think of a time when I have heard it called as such. There’s two stations: the station (which everyone uses) and the Abbey station (which very few people from St Albans do). Anyone referring to ‘City’ station is usually referring to City Thameslink.
And it's the same guards that announce Tamworth Low LevelInterestingly I was just about to mention this. It seems that some train guards/managers refer to it as Trent Valley although I've never seen anything official suggesting this.
Indeed since the Metro was extended, Sunderland I find is now referred to amongst locals as "Sunderland Central" or occasionally just "Central", which makes some sense now the city centre has three Metro stations, if you include University, four including St Peter's.Yeah, it’s “the Central station” to me. Although outside of Newcastle and Tyne & Wear, referring to the station as Newcastle seems reasonable. Same with London - when outside of London, it’s a case of “getting in to London”. Also with cities with one mainline station, it seems strange to refer to ask when in Sheffield, “can you tell me how to get to Sheffield station?”
Have to disagree with the point about “city station”, though with a caveat. When I was in St Albans in the 1990s this is how I heard it referred to pretty much exclusively. However, this may have been influenced by me being in the area near the abbey station, so there may have been more of a need to differentiate between the stations than elsewhere in the city.
That's strange, when I lived there in the late 90s it was always City Station, that's what people asked for a ticket to on the bus or whatever.
Didn't the destination blinds on the 319s say St Albans City?
It was known as 'Dorking North' or 'Dorking (North)' between 1923 and 1968. Many locals still call it 'Dorking North' (it's less of a mouthful than 'the main Dorking Station') to distinguish it from the other two.My namesake station now is simply known as Dorking.