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Yeah, I doubt it would be front page anyway - too many other things happening. In an email today, my TOC has told me "first thing tomorrow" for the details of what's happening.Too early yet.
Yeah, I doubt it would be front page anyway - too many other things happening. In an email today, my TOC has told me "first thing tomorrow" for the details of what's happening.Too early yet.
I'm not expecting it in tomorrow's papers. Ink will be well dry by then. Twitter etc & as you say possibly some internal emails flying about. I might even make an effort & set my alarm.Yeah, I doubt it would be front page anyway - too many other things happening. In an email today, my TOC has told me "first thing tomorrow" for the details of what's happening.
They will be very happy if they were going to lose money on it long term, bit like a get out of jail card so early on !.I can't imagine Avanti to be too happy having got the franchise in December only for the franchising to come to an end a few months later?
New GTR contract to run to September 2021
The Department for Transport (DfT) has announced that GTR's Emergency Measures Agreement (EMA), which ended on 20 September 2020, has been replaced by an Emergency Recovery Measures Agreement (ERMA).
GTR will operate under its ERMA until the end of its contract term in September 2021, with the potential for a further extension.
GTR's ERMA, which generates a margin of up to 1.5 per cent, is a management contract with no exposure to changes in passenger demand or ancillary revenue, such as car parking and retail commission.
Go-Ahead's other UK rail franchise, Southeastern, will continue operating under its EMA until October 2021, or March 2022 if extended.
Approximately 90 per cent of total Group revenues are generated through contracts where there is no direct revenue risk from changes in passenger demand.
David Brown, Go-Ahead CEO, commented:
"This contract reaffirms the Government's recognition of the important role rail plays in driving economic growth and in connecting communities. Independent passenger surveys have found that people who have recently travelled on our services found them to be clean, safe and reliable. We look forward to welcoming more passengers back onto our trains."
Patrick Verwer, GTR CEO, said:
"We welcome today's announcement and the stability this new agreement brings for our colleagues, who continue to focus on providing a safe and reliable service as we welcome back more customers. Going forward, we will continue to work with our partners and stakeholders across the industry to help reconnect communities, improve our performance and ensure high levels of customer satisfaction."
ENDS
Statement re further rail agreements with UK government
Released : 21.09.2020
FirstGroup plc
Further rail agreements with UK Government
FirstGroup plc (FirstGroup or the Group) is pleased to announce that the Department for Transport (DfT) has extended the emergency funding arrangements for the UK rail industry for the next six to 18 months.
New Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements (ERMAs) came into force yesterday for our South Western Railway (SWR), TransPennine Express (TPE), and West Coast Partnership (WCP, comprising HS2 shadow operator and Avanti West Coast) operations.
The ERMAs replace the Emergency Measures Agreements, which were put in place by the DfT in March to provide continuity for rail passengers and the industry during the coronavirus pandemic, and are similar in operation. During the term of the ERMAs, the DfT will continue to waive the revenue, cost and contingent capital risk of the train operating companies (TOCs) and will pay them a fixed management fee. There is also the potential for an additional performance-based fee, based on measures including punctuality, passenger satisfaction and financial performance. The overall fee potential is a maximum of 1.5% of the cost base of each franchise prior to the pandemic. The fixed fee and overall fee potential for each TOC is lower under the new ERMAs compared with the Emergency Measures Agreements, and more heavily weighted to performance delivery. The ERMAs make no material changes to the ring-fenced cash or working capital mechanisms in place for these operations.
The new ERMA for WCP, which commenced operations in December 2019 and was performing well prior to the pandemic, is in place to the end of March 2022. The new SWR and TPE ERMAs are in place to the end of March 2021, with the potential in the case of TPE to be in place until September 2021 in certain circumstances. In addition, all three include options to extend their duration by a further half year at the DfT’s discretion. As announced earlier this month, the Emergency Measures Agreement for Great Western Railway (GWR) has already been extended to at least 26 June 2021.
The DfT has also stated it intends to begin discussions with the TOCs to transition to new, directly-awarded contracts for the longer term, which would come into effect at the end of the ERMAs.
To this end, each of the ERMAs requires that by mid-December 2020 the TOC agrees with the DfT whether, and if so, how much parent company support or other payments are required to terminate the pre-existing franchise agreements. If any such termination sums are agreed, they would fall due at the end of the ERMA term, at which point the pre-existing franchise contract would also terminate by agreement. However if the termination sum for a TOC cannot be agreed by mid-December then the DfT has the right to terminate that ERMA early, with the TOC reverting to substantially all of the pre-existing franchise terms, from mid-January 2021. Assuming the termination sums are agreed, the DfT intends to negotiate a new direct award contract under which the TOC will deliver passenger rail services following the end of the ERMA.
The new ERMA for WCP, which commenced operations in December 2019 and was performing well prior to the pandemic, is in place to the end of March 2022. The new SWR and TPE ERMAs are in place to the end of March 2021, with the potential in the case of TPE to be in place until September 2021 in certain circumstances. In addition, all three include options to extend their duration by a further half year at the DfT’s discretion. As announced earlier this month, the Emergency Measures Agreement for Great Western Railway (GWR) has already been extended to at least 26 June 2021.And for GoAhead: https://www.londonstockexchange.com...tr-contract-to-run-to-september-2021/14691916GTR will operate under its ERMA until the end of its contract term in September 2021, with the potential for a further extension.
GTR's ERMA, which generates a margin of up to 1.5 per cent, is a management contract with no exposure to changes in passenger demand or ancillary revenue, such as car parking and retail commission.
Go-Ahead's other UK rail franchise, Southeastern, will continue operating under its EMA until October 2021, or March 2022 if extended.
GTR also includes Southern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express.So far confirmed are:
- West Coast Partnership until March 2022
- TPE & South Western until March 2021, with option for extension until September 2021 for TPE
- GWR until June 2021
- Thameslink until October 2021, with an option for an extension
- Southeastern until September 2021, with an option for an extension
Management fees will now be a maximum of 1.5% of the cost base of the franchise before the pandemic began. The ERMAs are a transitional stage to the new system, the biggest change to the railways in a quarter of a century.


ending the uncertainty and confusion about whether you are using the right ticket or the right train company.
Grant Shapps was very vague in his R4 interview this morning. It still seems a long way to go to reach the new system.
Nothing from Wales or Scotland yet, but they are pretty much bound to follow the same framework, even if the concessions are let separately.
Last 2 dates look to be the wrong way round - GN/TL/Southern/GatEx is Sept and South Eastern is OctSo far confirmed are:
- West Coast Partnership until March 2022
- TPE & South Western until March 2021, with option for extension until September 2021 for TPE
- GWR until June 2021
- Thameslink until October 2021, with an option for an extension
- Southeastern until September 2021, with an option for an extension
Nothing announced about the three English Abellio franchises yet unless I've missed it.
I would imagine business as usual on that for front line staff anyway. How many depends though on whether the enhancements & franchise commitments continue.How does this affect recruitment of staff? Does it at all?
Yes they are talking about going along with the Overground / Merseyrail route of ManagementI would imagine business as usual on that for front line staff anyway. How many depends though on whether the enhancements & franchise commitments continue.
Yes they are talking about going along with the Overground / Merseyrail route of Management
Are they? Why can they not carry on with their concessions they already have? The matter is devolved, Network Rail aside.
So the DfT still intend to extract a pound of flesh for letting First out of the franchise agreements? Or is that just leverage to get them to agree Direct Awards as DfT want them?Predictions of FirstGroup's exit were perhaps a little premature:
part quote:
Can't see anything from Abellio or Arriva yet.
A very interesting press release:
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Rail franchising reaches the terminus as a new railway takes shape
New system will end franchising model and deliver a simpler, effective model through high performance targets and simplified journeys.www.gov.uk
It will keep the best elements of the private sector, including competition and investment, that have helped to drive growth, but deliver strategic direction, leadership and accountability.
Nothing announced about the three English Abellio franchises yet unless I've missed it.
Nothing for GA staff yet. News in 90 usually gets sent from JB mid-morning on a Monday so maybe then.Staff email from the EMR MD confirms it for all 3 franchises but no timescale mentioned.
First have been predicticted to be “handing back the keys next month” ever since I joined the forum... Is it just possible there’s a few posters who always want it to happen, and interpret any news at all in that way?Predictions of FirstGroup's exit were perhaps a little premature:
Under current public health guidance, the intention is also for operators to run an almost full service to ensure there is space to help passengers travel safely.