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Coronavirus virus fears causing panic buying

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Bletchleyite

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i get through more than that on my own! Also if I had run out of bread, low on other stuff and couldn’t get out I would be likely to resort to pasta twice a day, as it is so easy and so filling. Hence it’s my emergency stash.

The thing is you don't need filling food if you are going to be inactive, you are just going to burn your base of 2000/2500 (female/male) calories per day pretty much, and that is surprisingly little food. Comfort eating is not a reason to panic buy.
 
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Where do you draw the line between panic buying and sensible preparedness? The latter will still clear the shelves if events trigger large numbers to do it at the same time.

At the very worst you're going be out of action for a couple of weeks, and even then it would be highly unlikely most people could not make alternative arrangements. Like I said, people like to panic.
 

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How much pasta do you eat? One small bag will easily last one person a week if they have pasta for tea every day. It's the silly high quantities some people are buying that is the problem.

The recommended serving is typically 50g and bags 500g, so that's 10 portions. Some people I'm sure eat more than that, but if you're sat on your backside at home doing nothing you do not need to, you'll just get fat and become an additional drain on the NHS.
As has been said pasta is a low cost, easy to make meal and the ingredients usually have a long shelf life. I can buy a 3kg bag of Penne for £3 which adds up to pennies per serving.
As for portion size I measure out 150g per serving. I could probably get away with a little less but I usually finish the entire bowl so it seems to be the right portion size for me. 50g would be nowhere near enough for a main meal for me, it would be a snack sized portion! I am definitely not getting fat but then again I have a reasonably active lifestyle and do regular exercise.
 
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As things, yes. Panic buying is unnecessary and frankly selfish. The vast majority of people in this country don't need to, they just like to panic.

Certainly up til now I'd agree, but given the now very real potential for having to self-isolate, I'm definitely thinking about ensuring I've got enough tinned/dry/frozen stuff to see me through 2 weeks. Admittedly as I've only got to feed myself, this won't be much, but because I only ever tend to buy a week's worth of groceries at a time it would be prudent for me to ensure that if I had to self-isolate I'd still be able to eat! At this stage, stocking up on things like that becomes less 'panic buying' and more taking sensible precautions.

Home delivery is not a practical option because a) it's going to become less available as more and more people self-isolate, both because of increased demand and reduced number of drivers/pickers and b) Most supermarkets will only do deliveries for baskets of £40 or more, which would be difficult to achieve when buying for myself to last 2 weeks - there'd be a lot of dries anyway as most fresh stuff won't last that long!

The recommended serving is typically 50g and bags 500g, so that's 10 portions. Some people I'm sure eat more than that, but if you're sat on your backside at home doing nothing you do not need to, you'll just get fat and become an additional drain on the NHS.

I've always had it down as 75g (dry) per serving
 

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At the very worst you're going be out of action for a couple of weeks, and even then it would be highly unlikely most people could not make alternative arrangements. Like I said, people like to panic.

I get perhaps buying some pasta, but people are clearly buying more than that to be clearing shelves to the extent which is happening.

Meanwhile my local station and train into London is a complete ghost town, very considerable reduction in usage compared to normal. Feels like being back in the 80s again!
 

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Certainly up til now I'd agree, but given the now very real potential for having to self-isolate, I'm definitely thinking about ensuring I've got enough tinned/dry/frozen stuff to see me through 2 weeks. Admittedly as I've only got to feed myself, this won't be much, but because I only ever tend to buy a week's worth of groceries at a time it would be prudent for me to ensure that if I had to self-isolate I'd still be able to eat! At this stage, stocking up on things like that becomes less 'panic buying' and more taking sensible precautions.

Home delivery is not a practical option because a) it's going to become less available as more and more people self-isolate, both because of increased demand and reduced number of drivers/pickers and b) Most supermarkets will only do deliveries for baskets of £40 or more, which would be difficult to achieve when buying for myself to last 2 weeks - there'd be a lot of dries anyway as most fresh stuff won't last that long!

The problem is that many people are buying way more than a couple of week's worth of food. Some people seem to be planning for the apocalypse.

I get perhaps buying some pasta, but people are clearly buying more than that to be clearing shelves to the extent which is happening.

Meanwhile my local station and train into London is a complete ghost town, very considerable reduction in usage compared to normal. Feels like being back in the 80s again!

Exactly, for most households two weeks shopping is double what they would normally buy. From what I've witnessed this week, some people could be opening up their own convivence stores.

Something else worries me here. Everyone seems to assume that they must all buy at the same time, but the virus isn't going to work that way. Plenty of people will not get any symptoms at the same time, some won't get any at all. So why aren't friends and family simply thinking outside the box here. Organise amongst yourselves, if one household isolates, others could do the shopping for them. You know the way proactive families and communities do. Oh yeah, I forgot, we don't do this in the UK anymore.

My family at least has already discussed this, and this is what will happen if needs be. OK, it won't work for absolutely everyone, buy I'm happy to wager that a good proportion of those panic buyers could easily do that if they stepped outside their insular little bubbles once in a blue moon.
 

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Was in London monday to wednesday, went to the pub every night, struggled to get tables.

Train to London on Monday was busier than normal. Got a late train back (2110) on Wednesday which may have been a little emptier than normal, but it's usually fairly quiet on a wednesday night.

Popped into various shops in Telford yesterday, all normal.

The problem is that many people are buying way more than a couple of week's worth of food. Some people seem to be planning for the apocalypse.

Yet they are thinking water will still be running, to flush the toilet and to boil the pasta.
 

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Every supermarket in Hinckley has sold out of loo roll, went to Morrisons yesterday afternoon and the checkout operator said that they sold out within an hour of the store opening :o. Although my local corner shop still has a fair few, they've put a "1 per person" rule in on loo roll and hand wash, although in theory there's nothing stopping an individual to get a friend or family member to go in and get another pack for them.
 

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Guys, I get the deal about pasta! Funnily enough I use it a lot! However there's something rather amusing about panic-buying a commodity that's not at risk from stores that are not likely to close...

Are you sure supplies and stores aren’t at risk?

The supermarket I visited last Saturday still had the same gaping holes in certain departments when I visited again on Thursday.* So if they're still getting the stock in, it's flying out just as quick.

Another supermarket I visited on Monday (to get what I couldn't on Saturday) was virtually fully stocked by comparison. They were different chains, and the former is in a town, within walking distance of a significant population, so I suspect it was getting hit harder as a result.

*The cereal aisle was looking like Swiss cheese, with everything own-brand gone. But there was overstock of Kelloggs and other branded cereals sat on the overflow shelves at the top. The former retail manager in me was twitching at the fact that they hadn't bothered remerchandising it to fill the shelves and make it look presentable. The toilet paper aisle was home to nothing but tumbleweed, so in fairness there's nothing they could have done there.
 

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The thing is you don't need filling food if you are going to be inactive, you are just going to burn your base of 2000/2500 (female/male) calories per day pretty much, and that is surprisingly little food. Comfort eating is not a reason to panic buy.
I get pretty hungry when I am ill, and without fresh milk for cereal I am likely to be brunch and dinner.

At the very worst you're going be out of action for a couple of weeks, and even then it would be highly unlikely most people could not make alternative arrangements. Like I said, people like to panic.

Technically worst case would be self isolating, then realising you haven’t got it, then maybe do have it etc, and in a family this could be overlapping (at some point they will probably ask for household quarantine). As the shops aren’t coping all that well whilst tiny numbers are ill how can you be confident they and/or a delivery system will work if there is a worst case peak?

and of course panic buying is like the prisoner’s dilemma. Even if you believe there is no need to panic buy, if you don’t and everyone else does then you are the one going shop to shop looking for bogroll.
 

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*The cereal aisle was looking like Swiss cheese, with everything own-brand gone. But there was overstock of Kelloggs and other branded cereals sat on the overflow shelves at the top. The former retail manager in me was twitching at the fact that they hadn't bothered remerchandising it to fill the shelves and make it look presentable. The toilet paper aisle was home to nothing but tumbleweed, so in fairness there's nothing they could have done there.
Why didn't they move it to the cheese aisle then?

Is tumbleweed any good as a toilet paper substitute?
 

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While last week I didn't see any real signs of panic buying, today was a very different story.
 

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In my local Sainsburys the things running out constantly are bottles of Gaviscon, toilet rolls, carex products including the hand wash and would you believe it, corned beef hash.
 

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In my local Sainsburys the things running out constantly are bottles of Gaviscon, toilet rolls, carex products including the hand wash and would you believe it, corned beef hash.

Flour, bread, rice, dried pasta, cereal, porridge oats, baked beans, tinned vegetables, tinned fruit, eggs, black pudding, sausages, beef mince, toilet rolls, kitchen rolls, tissues, hand sanitiser, paracetamol it goes on...

Before today it wasn't really significant.
 

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In my local Sainsburys the things running out constantly are bottles of Gaviscon, toilet rolls, carex products including the hand wash and would you believe it, corned beef hash.
I’ve just been to one of the big Sainsbury’s in Exeter and there were all sorts of gaps on the shelves. I think we’ll do a stocktake of the kitchen cupboards tomorrow and get a few extra bits and bobs in just to make sure we can do a couple of weeks worth of meals if needs be, I don’t think we’ll need too much because we often cook a bit extra to put in the freezer anyway.
 

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Yeah, I wish someone would explain why pasta is being panic-bought? Do people think its only comes from Italy & so stocks will run out, or perhaps the annual Italian pasta tree harvest won't go ahead...… ;)
Harvest starts on the 1st April :lol:
 

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Just been to the local big Sainsbury’s- huge gaps on the shelves!
All pasta gone, even the most obscure types, almost all bogroll and all tissues.
Barely anything canned left. All rice pudding and custard!
Huge gap on the ketchup shelf too!
Looked like the women’s sanitary stuff had been gutted too.
 

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Asda in Cheadle Staffordshire (a fairly small store, built on the site of the combined PMT bus station/garage incidentally), midday. Last toilet roll just being sold having had two pallets delivered that morning. One bloke buying 2 x 24 pack and nothing else.

However, readers can relax in knowing that I now have a number of tins of oxtail soup - my comfort food when feeling under the weather. I didn't really want six tins but that was the special offer.

For the benefit of a few readers, black pudding was over-stocked and in the reduced section (or whoopsies as they call them in Asda).
 

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Wasn't it Panorama which had a feature on the spaghetti harvest? Or (showing my age) "Tonight" with Cliff Michelmore?
Couldn't think which programme it was but yes, that is what I was getting at. They believed it then and people haven't got any brighter since.
 

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As has been said pasta is a low cost, easy to make meal and the ingredients usually have a long shelf life. I can buy a 3kg bag of Penne for £3 which adds up to pennies per serving.
As for portion size I measure out 150g per serving. I could probably get away with a little less but I usually finish the entire bowl so it seems to be the right portion size for me. 50g would be nowhere near enough for a main meal for me, it would be a snack sized portion! I am definitely not getting fat but then again I have a reasonably active lifestyle and do regular exercise.

The standard measurement in Italy for a primo piatto is ~100g of pasta per person, right in the middle between Bletchleyite and you :D
 

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There's only one of me now, and still have numerous tins and stuff in the freezer from when the old girl was with me; always had to be over-stocked then as if I were hospitalised there was plenty for the carers looking after her so they wouldn't need to shop.
 
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