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strettonarms96

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The marches line is positioned too far east and despite Knighton station being in England, the town itself is in Wales - the map indicates it being well into England. The map also omits Telford Central and Wellington
 

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Has anyone checked whether Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is spelled correctly on the map?
 

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Haven't they missed out Pontypridd too?

Edit: They have from the main map but it's there (and spelled correctly)
 

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When I looked today only the accessibility map was on the site. Looks like maybe the other two are in for works attention. :D
 

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Am I going blind or are there any timetable pdfs on the tfw rail website?
 

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Am I going blind or are there any timetable pdfs on the tfw rail website?

You're not going blind - seems the electronic timetables will only be available from the Dec 18 TT change, and ATM there's only a journey planner:

https://tfwrail.wales/travel-updates/train-times

Our online journey planner is perfect for train times, prices and journey planning advice such as connections and journey duration. And our handy app gives you all this while you’re on the go.

You can pick up a printed timetable at one of our staffed stations. If you need an alternative format, such as large print or braille, our customer relations team will be happy to send you one.

Coming soon: Downloadable PDF copies of our December 2018 timetables.
 

nicolaboo

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Llandudno to Manchester. The Limited Service section surely should extend out to Holyhead.
 

6Gman

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The cartography fans on Project Mapping have done an audit of the new TfW maps.

http://www.projectmapping.co.uk/mapwatch_naming.html

Besides the errors they've spotted I note that Ebbw Vale Town is missing. Any more?
Those maps are AWFUL !

I note also that the River Ogwr has become the River Gowr in the Welsh rendition of Bridgend.

And that Wrexham Central is now north of Wrexham General.
 

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I risk being unpopular here, but isn't this a bit of an exercise in pedantry? The map seems perfectly functional to me as a casual user of the network. If I wanted top notch cartography, I wouldn't go to a rail map.

It does seem that there are a group of members here who are trying to find the smallest and most insignificant faults with the new regime.
 

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I risk being unpopular here, but isn't this a bit of an exercise in pedantry? The map seems perfectly functional to me as a casual user of the network. If I wanted top notch cartography, I wouldn't go to a rail map.

Well, putting stations in the wrong order seems pretty misleading to me. As is the suggestion that the Heart of Wales Line will take you to Welshpool rather than Shrewsbury etc etc
 

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The marches line is positioned too far east and despite Knighton station being in England, the town itself is in Wales - the map indicates it being well into England. The map also omits Telford Central and Wellington
It wouldn't surprise me if the border is missing from the map when it appears (or reappears) on the official web site. I can only see a couple of stations in the sea (Cardiff Bay and Pwllheli), and one on the wrong landmass (Holyhead), but putting stations on the right sde of the border doesn't seem to have been a priority, much less showing whether how far a station is from it. At least they managed to put Shrewsbury roughly due north of Chepstow.

I don't know who the accessibility map is intended for, though. It gives a big orange blob for Chester, but I don't know why, and nationalrail.co.uk mentions no issues. They also use orange blobs for the bottom line in Shotton, where reaching the Chester-bound platform without going down the steps would take a trek of a mile or so from the nearest public road.
 

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Well, putting stations in the wrong order seems pretty misleading to me. As is the suggestion that the Heart of Wales Line will take you to Welshpool rather than Shrewsbury etc etc
And also doesnt serve Llanelli. Aberystwyth trains not serving Machynlleth, Borderlands trains via Chester, Chester to Shrewsbury via Wrexham Central are some more glaring errors that I've seen
 

anamyd

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I risk being unpopular here, but isn't this a bit of an exercise in pedantry? The map seems perfectly functional to me as a casual user of the network. If I wanted top notch cartography, I wouldn't go to a rail map.
"I don't see any problem in there being heaps of errors" (!)

Thankfully they all seem to have been fixed nowadays.
 

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My favourite is apparently you get a train from Cardiff Central that goes WEST from the station to Cardiff Bay.

Also the City line to Radyr via Danescourt doesn’t exist.

EDIT: And Cardiff Central being about 6 times closer to Newport than Cardiff Bay. :lol:
 
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PR1Berske

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Is the map actually intended to be a near geographically accurate map, or a schematic diagram similar to London Underground?

Both are very different in terms of layout and representation.
It seems to be trying to do both. Squashing the whole of Wales into one map with bilingual labels can't be easy. I'd question why Liverpool, Manchester etc. are given translated names when the Welsh versions are not included anywhere on the stations themselves!
 

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Is the map actually intended to be a near geographically accurate map, or a schematic diagram similar to London Underground?

Both are very different in terms of layout and representation.

I accept what you are saying with the two different map types but Aberystwyth looks a little too far East for either map type, in fact i thought it was missing at first. Anyone looking for Borth will be equally confused if they know it to be on the coast.
 
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It seems to be trying to do both. Squashing the whole of Wales into one map with bilingual labels can't be easy. I'd question why Liverpool, Manchester etc. are given translated names when the Welsh versions are not included anywhere on the stations themselves!

Presumably for Welsh speakers who use these names in their everyday speech
 
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