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New South Western franchise: Awarded to First/MTR

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XCTurbostar said:
I'll just leave this here..

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You know what? That doesn't look too bad! It might not be the cacophony of red, orange and blue that SWT was famous for, but it's certainly a step up from Thameslink off-white.

Given what First are doing with TPE and GWR, I'd have been surprised if they'd have made it too boring.
 
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Darandio said:
It was already left several pages back, then repeatedly discussed and criticised.
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True, but looking at that it appears to be from something official therefore more likely that is what the livery will really look like.
 
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abn444 said:
True, but looking at that it appears to be from something official therefore more likely that is what the livery will really look like.
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It is the same picture though, or do you mean the addition of text?

However, the original one is now nearly 200 posts back and the most recent will be consigned to mid-thread obscurity pretty soon. I know people generally don't like multiple threads, but wouldn't it be advantageous for a dedicated thread for livery discussion/froth?
 
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Hartington said:
https://www.southwesternrailway.com/~/media/pdfs/franchise-delivery-plan/10710-swr-franchise-devivery-plan-for-web.pdf?la=en

Are the 158/9s getting GWR style tombstone seats an no window alignment?

"We will add capacity to the West of England
fleet. We will increase seating on Class 158s
and 159s. We will refresh and repaint the
fleet , increase its capacity and provide an
enhanced customer experience"
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Refresh and repaint the fleet, which has just been refreshed and repainted? Presumably removing the comfortable current seating to replace it with ironing boards, presumably in black or dark blue? Sounds fantastic.
 
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JaJaWa said:
Some improvements I noticed mentioned throughout the new website…

  • 30 minute+ delay repay from 4 September 2017
  • 15 minute+ delay repay from December 2017
  • automatic delay repay in January 2019
  • new smartcard based on First 'touch'
  • introduce pay-as-you-go to the smartcard in December 2019
  • new Advance Purchase fares to London from 33 stations
  • create a new virtual branch line between Fareham and Gosport to allow locations without a rail connection to be linked into the National Rail timetable through an integrated connecting bus service
  • upgrade First Class, provide complimentary refreshments and inductive charging for mobile devices
  • complete heavy clean programme for all rolling stock within the first 100 days of the franchise
  • create a partnership with Transport for London
  • bright markings that match the doors where the train stops (like MTR)
  • start the consultation phase of the process to deliver improvements for Island Line. This will include setting out a range of options to stakeholders for rolling stock and infrastructure, before submitting ideas to the Government next year.
  • confirmation the logo represents the network map (also animation here https://twitter.com/SW_Help/status/899098638378520576)
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The blue and letter letter isn't so bad together. But don't like the blue and black on white background. Still it's irrelevant what I think as they have decided this is what it will be.

I wonder how they did their market research to decide it was a good logo?
 
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Class455 said:
Does ATOS Anne announce at any station on the SWR network apart from Reading?
Would've thought First would've gone for ATOS Anne since they did that for First Capital Connect and GWR
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Quite a few!
Warminster - Bristol and Yeovil - Westbury come to mind
also Exeter St Davids / Exeter Central

Romsey, Mottisfont & Dunbridge and Dean are GWR managed.
 
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Looks like there is still a SWT still to run!

Guessing one of the new screens in WIT has lost its connection.
 

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Looking at that list above, "Bright markings that match the doors where the train stops"...

I'm perplexed as to how that is intended to work. Different colours for 444, 450, 455/456, 458, 159, 707....? And if a 444+450 combo turns up?

"(Like MTR)" - I'm going to hazard a guess that they have a single type and length of train for each line?

That isn't going to work, is it...
 
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A question, when Northern changed hands, they made a big deal of removing the old brand, sticking white stickers over everything with a Northern logo on (most are still there now), even down to stuff like 'CCTV in operation' signs.

But in this case it seems the SWT brand hasn't had to be removed from anything?
 
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Damo1977 said:
Clapham Junction announcement:
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Also heard at Southampton earlier, and I'm 99% sure that's the existing Phil Sayer announcement edited. The individual words of "South Western Railway" were already in his recorded vocabulary after all...
 
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BestWestern said:
Looking at that list above, "Bright markings that match the doors where the train stops"...

I'm perplexed as to how that is intended to work. Different colours for 444, 450, 455/456, 458, 159, 707....? And if a 444+450 combo turns up?

"(Like MTR)" - I'm going to hazard a guess that they have a single type and length of train for each line?

That isn't going to work, is it...
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I wouldn't be surprised if that was for the suburban routes after the 455/456/458 and 707 fleets have been replaced, as it's the suburban routes that would benefit most from this sort of thing to reduce dwell times etc. It's also the area MTR's experience comes in anyway.
 
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Andyh82 said:
A question, when Northern changed hands, they made a big deal of removing the old brand, sticking white stickers over everything with a Northern logo on (most are still there now), even down to stuff like 'CCTV in operation' signs.

But in this case it seems the SWT brand hasn't had to be removed from anything?
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The SWT wording didn't include a company name, as Bletchleyite suggested earlier last week.

If it means no-one being sent round to vandalise everything he can find with a black marker then I'm all for it...
 
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Damo1977 said:
Looks like there is still a SWT still to run!



Guessing one of the new screens in WIT has lost its connection.
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It was showing that service like that at 8pm on Friday, so guess it has been like that since at least Thursday night!
 
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swt_passenger said:
Also heard at Southampton earlier, and I'm 99% sure that's the existing Phil Sayer announcement edited. The individual words of "South Western Railway" were already in his recorded vocabulary after all...
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It doesn't quite work that way, when Phil Sawyer initially did the voice work he had to record specific words many of which had nothing to do with the railway. A computer then takes those sounds from the recordings to make new words.
 
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Well my last journeys on SWT were 18:54 from Feltham to Mortlake and return making use of the direct service due to the Waterloo upgrade works to have a few pints of Young's ordinary in the Jolly Gardener's followed by a nice Persian meal, returning on the 22:27 from Mortlake.

458 up and 455 back.

As I have given up work not sure when first SWR trip will be.
 
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I go to Reading quite a lot, and I thought it was a nice touch that my last ever SWT into Reading, on Thurs, was on a 707. ;)
(vid over in 707 thread)
 
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