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Next Lib Dem leader?- and when?? (guessing game)

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backontrack

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Like the BBC, we must remain impartial (in theory).

So: who will be the next Lib Dem leader?

I'll go with Nick Clegg. Whisper it quietly...
 
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So are we going to have a thread for next Green leader, next UKIP leader, next SNP leader, next PC leader, next DUP leader etc.? :roll:
 

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The leader will presumably have to be chosen from whichever LibDems get elected as MPs, so that'll keep the possibilities down somewhat! Nick Clegg would have to get re-elected, even if he wanted the job back, which I doubt. Farron was probably the best available at the time, which doesn't say much for the calibre of the others, although Norman Lamb was probably seen as a bit on the conservative side to enthuse the activists.
 

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I agree that this is getting daft, more so when Nick Clegg will not keep his seat in the upcoming election and Tim Farren is expected to end up with more seats than Clegg! so i would say his job is very much safe
 

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Screaming Lord Sutch would have loved it.:)

Next leader of the Rail User's Party!

Actually, as a different discussion, if we had PR could that open up the door for single-issue parties such as a Rail Commuter Party? We could have a Silver Party for us greys, Youth Party and so on, each maybe getting seats in Parliament and being part of a wider coalition.
 

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Next leader of the Rail User's Party!

Actually, as a different discussion, if we had PR could that open up the door for single-issue parties such as a Rail Commuter Party? We could have a Silver Party for us greys, Youth Party and so on, each maybe getting seats in Parliament and being part of a wider coalition.
A one-issue rail party will do well in Southern areas if we campaigned for renationalisation. Do we have a member who lives in Brighton to stand in 2022 as a local person who knows?
 

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A one-issue rail party will do well in Southern areas if we campaigned for renationalisation. Do we have a member who lives in Brighton to stand in 2022 as a local person who knows?

There is a train driver challenging Chris Grayling at this election:

The Guardian said:
Ed Mayne
Train driver
Labour PPC Epsom and Ewell


Although I’ve just recently qualified as a train driver, I’ve worked in the rail industry for six years, in customer service then as a guard.

When Theresa May called the snap election, I wanted to challenge the transport minister [Chris Grayling] – to stand up for people who have been failed by Conservative transport policies. People here have been very badly affected by rail services, they have suffered and pay a huge amount of money for it.

Working on the frontline in transport has given me a good understanding of the issues faced in the rail industry and by the travelling public. I have seen the failings on a day-to day basis. I can see how the current rail structure doesn’t work and I know what should be prioritised. I believe in an integrated transport policy, it benefits everyone and makes for a better running system – so my priority if elected would be to bring Southern and South West trains under the control of Transport for London. I also support renationalisation.

I go to work in the knowledge that whatever difficulties I face, I’m there to provide a public service – it’s a work ethic that people in public services have, we are passionate about what we do. It’s this commitment that motivates us to keep going, this experience of being responsible to and accountable to people. That sense of accountability is very important to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...ament-candidates-westminster-general-election
 

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A one-issue rail party will do well in Southern areas if we campaigned for renationalisation. Do we have a member who lives in Brighton to stand in 2022 as a local person who knows?

The difficulty today is an one-issue candidate might get 2,000 votes...but be nowhere near getting a seat in Parliament.
However 650 constituencies x 2,000 = 1.3million votes, and as a proportion of the total number of votes cast (say 30m) = nearly 28 seats. Of course that would be for national issues. 2,000 just voting in one town is next to nothing in the whole country!
 

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A one-issue rail party will do well in Southern areas if we campaigned for renationalisation. Do we have a member who lives in Brighton to stand in 2022 as a local person who knows?

... and quite badly everywhere else, because we would prefer not to risk kicking off more strikes, or increasing the impact of those that do kick off...

... or they might only abstract votes from Liebour Labour.
 
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Well, it will be happening soon. Tim Farron has seen the light and realised that liberalism is incompatible with the Christian faith.
 

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Well, it will be happening soon. Tim Farron has seen the light and realised that liberalism is incompatible with the Christian faith.

I think you might want to look into the meaning of liberalism
 

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It now sounds like Cable could be interim leader with one of Jo Swinson, Norman Lamb and Ed Davey likely to take the role permanently.

Looking at their voting records.

Jo Swinson:
- is against renewing Trident.
- is in favour of taxing banks more.
- is in favour of HS2
- is against using a more proportional system to elect MPs - unusual for a Lib Dem!
- is in favour of an elected House of Lords
- is in favour of a lower voting age
- in in favour of a Green Investment Bank
- didn't rebel against the welfare and tuition fee changes implemented in the 2010-2015 parliament.

Norman Lamb:
- voted against a ban on fox hunting
- generally votes against military action abroad
- is in favour of euthanasia
- is against a 50p tax rate
- is against more restrictive regulation of trade union activity
- is in favour of HS2
- is in favour of a more proportional system to elect MPs
- is in favour of an elected House of Lords
- is in favour of a lower voting age
- didn't rebel against most of the welfare and tuition fee changes implemented in the 2010-2015 parliament.

Ed Davey:
- is against renewing Trident.
- generally votes against military action abroad
- is in favour of allowing employees to 'exchange' employment rights for shares in the company
- is in favour of HS2
- is in favour of a more proportional system to elect MPs
- is in favour of an elected House of Lords
- is in favour of a lower voting age
- is against fracking
- didn't rebel against most of the welfare and tuition fee changes implemented in the 2010-2015 parliament.
 
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Tim Farron has seen the light and realised that liberalism is incompatible with the Christian faith

The most stupid reason to resign ever. Than he also joined the wrong party. he seems to be in parlement since 2005. And than it was never a problem, untill he became leader of the LD. How many seats did they lose?! Oh it seems to be even +4.
 

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The most stupid reason to resign ever. Than he also joined the wrong party. he seems to be in parlement since 2005. And than it was never a problem, untill he became leader of the LD. How many seats did they lose?! Oh it seems to be even +4.

It was being leader that caused the problems. Lib Dems have a large LGBT membership - some of whom have always been unhappy with Farron's Christian views. He felt he was forced to betray his Christian values when pressed by the press on issues such as gay sex as to do otherwise would be regarded as political suicide. He should have stood true to his principles and made it clear that a key part of being a Liberal is accepting other views and allowing people to live as they see fit and not imposing your views on others. He voted in favour of LGBT equality legislation and was happy to be interviewed by Pink News and outline his support for equality issues.

I would like to see Jo Swinson elected leader - which would leave Labour as the only major party not to have a permanent female leader.
 

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My money's on Lamb.

I heard Lamb on 'Any Questions' about three years ago, without knowing it was him, and assumed I was listening to a fairly right-wing Tory MP from his answers: he is the LibDem equivalent to Labour's Chris Leslie and, like the unlamented David Laws, would have been far better seeking a home in the Conservative Party, if only the pro-EU tendency had prevailed there.
 

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Bring back Lembit Opik - he could be parachuted into a safe Lib Dem Seat - Orkney and Shetland ?
 

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I don't want Norman Lamb to get the job - he used to be my MP, and he's a very good constituency MP (probably why he keeps defying the predictions and keeping his job), and I think if he becomes leader it will be difficult for that to continue.
 

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Bring back Lembit Opik - he could be parachuted into a safe Lib Dem Seat - Orkney and Shetland ?

They should definitely do a reality TV show where Lembit Opik is parachuted into places, and Orkney and Shetland provide excitingly small targets for landing.
 
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