On 11th March I received a penalty fare notice which I feel has been issued unfairly.
I have never had a penalty fare notice before and have never induged in fare dodging.
My local station has never in the 25 years I have lived here, had a ticket machine/ticket office, and for the past nine weeks (and counting) the permit to travel machine has been out of order.
The trains are 2 carriage ones, with a guard in the rear carriage (who makes sure everyone has got on OK before he closes the doors etc), so I sit next to the cab when I travel, hoping that he/she will sell me a ticket - whi happens most of the time. If the guard does not appear, then I leave the train, catch my connection and pay at my destination station, something which until 11th March was understood by station staff, because they know the situation at my station.
On 11th March however, the conductor stayed in their cab (they were on their mobile), so I had to get across to the other platform to get my connection - I would have had to wait 24 minutes if I had missed it, but there is 2 minutes leeway, so unless my train is delayed it all works OK.
When I got to the destination station however, and asked for a return fare from my station, the two guys (revenue protection) obviously didn't like any of my answers, refused to sell me a return fare and issued me with a penalty fare notice.
The questions were:
Why didn't you buy a ticket? - Because there isn't a ticket machine and the permit to travel machine is out of order.
Why didn't you buy a ticket from the conductor? - Because the conductor didn't venture out of their cab.
Why didn't you purchase a weekly season ticket? - Because I only travel 2/3 times a week.
I have appealed twice against this - I haven't yet paid the penalty fare - and both letters have stated that I should have bought a ticket prior to getting on the train!
The latest letter has gone further than that, and stated that the connecting train which I caught (and have caught on many occasions) is not a "valid connection", that there is only two minutes between my train arriving and the connecting train departing, and therefore I should not be catching that train but the one in 24 minutes time!
I feel that I have done everything possible to purchase a ticket every time I catch a train from my local station.
The other thing which I mentioned, was that all my fares are reimbursed daily by my course provider, so there is no need for me to try to avoid paying the fare not that I would anyway because I never have.
Sorry for the long post, but I felt I had to include every detail I could remember.
I hope that someone can help.
Cheers.
I have never had a penalty fare notice before and have never induged in fare dodging.
My local station has never in the 25 years I have lived here, had a ticket machine/ticket office, and for the past nine weeks (and counting) the permit to travel machine has been out of order.
The trains are 2 carriage ones, with a guard in the rear carriage (who makes sure everyone has got on OK before he closes the doors etc), so I sit next to the cab when I travel, hoping that he/she will sell me a ticket - whi happens most of the time. If the guard does not appear, then I leave the train, catch my connection and pay at my destination station, something which until 11th March was understood by station staff, because they know the situation at my station.
On 11th March however, the conductor stayed in their cab (they were on their mobile), so I had to get across to the other platform to get my connection - I would have had to wait 24 minutes if I had missed it, but there is 2 minutes leeway, so unless my train is delayed it all works OK.
When I got to the destination station however, and asked for a return fare from my station, the two guys (revenue protection) obviously didn't like any of my answers, refused to sell me a return fare and issued me with a penalty fare notice.
The questions were:
Why didn't you buy a ticket? - Because there isn't a ticket machine and the permit to travel machine is out of order.
Why didn't you buy a ticket from the conductor? - Because the conductor didn't venture out of their cab.
Why didn't you purchase a weekly season ticket? - Because I only travel 2/3 times a week.
I have appealed twice against this - I haven't yet paid the penalty fare - and both letters have stated that I should have bought a ticket prior to getting on the train!
The latest letter has gone further than that, and stated that the connecting train which I caught (and have caught on many occasions) is not a "valid connection", that there is only two minutes between my train arriving and the connecting train departing, and therefore I should not be catching that train but the one in 24 minutes time!
I feel that I have done everything possible to purchase a ticket every time I catch a train from my local station.
The other thing which I mentioned, was that all my fares are reimbursed daily by my course provider, so there is no need for me to try to avoid paying the fare not that I would anyway because I never have.
Sorry for the long post, but I felt I had to include every detail I could remember.
I hope that someone can help.
Cheers.
