Effect of strike on Tuesday 26 May?

[CharlieSpotted]

Dont worry people: The Marston Vale line will still be running on Tuesday!

And the PPM on Stourbridge Town to Stourbridge Junction, too! Which is, er, useful?

 

[VisualAcid]

Dont worry people: The Marston Vale line will still be running on Tuesday!

The woman guard fell out while the train was still moving last year, don't think she's bothered by anything

 

[GodAtum]

I am not expecting any meaningful number of trains via Redhill on Monday or Tuesday. This may change. Monday's emergency timetable in particular, however, would completely omit many major stations on Southern routes - including the BML stations of Burgess Hill, Horley, Redhill, Purley and Clapham Junction; all routes to London Bridge; Metro stations including Dorking, Epsom, Sutton, West Croydon, Crystal Palace, Tulse Hill and Peckham Rye; and the whole of the Horsham/Arun Valley, Hove and Lewes routes.

Ah OK, maybe tram to Winbledon. is there a bus to Guildford from there?

if no trains are running on tuesday, I wonder how many people will be unable to get to work, 1000s, 10000s, millions?

 

[bussnapperwm]

And the PPM on Stourbridge Town to Stourbridge Junction, too! Which is, er, useful?

Yeah well that has a use as it links in with the Stourbridge to Birmingham service that is running

 

[bradders1983]

Can someone please confirm?

Know someone who had booked tickets Sheffield-Motherwell on Monday morning, travel via WCML which is shut down totally as far as I am aware.

Will she be allowed to go Sheffield-Doncaster-Edinburgh-Glasgow instead (where she will pick up a bus)?

 

[jopsuk]

There doesn't appear to be any service on the ECML north of Newcastle, so she would not be able to get from there to Edinburgh

 

[bradders1983]

There doesn't appear to be any service on the ECML north of Newcastle, so she would not be able to get from there to Edinburgh

Think you will find that is slightly incorrect

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.c...---nr-rmt-strike-timetable---final-public.pdf

 

[Tetchytyke]

She'll need to ask Virgin Trains East Coast about ticket acceptance. They are running services as normal Monday morning, with everything winding down from about lunchtime, so she should be able to get to Glasgow via Newcastle and Edinburgh.

 

[bradders1983]

She'll need to ask Virgin Trains East Coast about ticket acceptance. They are running services as normal Monday morning, with everything winding down from about lunchtime, so she should be able to get to Glasgow via Newcastle and Edinburgh.

Aha, I just checked:

Ticketing Information

If you’ve got tickets for travel with Virgin Trains East Coast on the 25 and 26 May you can instead choose to use these tickets on our services on Sunday 24 May or on Wednesday 27, Thursday 28 and Friday 29 May 2015. If you hold an Advance ticket, please use the same train service as originally booked or the services immediately before or after.

All ticket restrictions will be lifted on Monday 25 May and Tuesday 26 May 2015.

Existing seat reservations will only be in place on services where the original booked train is also running in the amended timetable.

She should be OK then.

 

[Tetchytyke]

If her ticket is VTEC+Connections or any permitted she'll be OK. If her ticket is CrossCountry+Connections she should check whether East Coast will accept her ticket on their services.

 

[sprinterguy]

London Midland

http://www.londonmidland.com/about-...end_list&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid

It quite often seems beneficial to live near the Snow Hill lines rather than, say, the Cross City route in Birmingham; we don't seem to get hit by nearly as much disruption (or as hard).

That said, assuming that London Midland will probably be running something similar to a Sunday service (with added morning bits), I will probably give the train a miss on Tuesday morning and use the bus. Good excuse to go for a walk and find a decent pub in the evening after work, too.

 

[Saint66]

Thameslink have just tweeted thar if the action goes ahead, they expect there will be no service south of St Pancras on Tuesday.

 

[ASharpe]

Ah OK, maybe tram to Winbledon. is there a bus to Guildford from there?

if no trains are running on tuesday, I wonder how many people will be unable to get to work, 1000s, 10000s, millions?

I think there is a bus between Guildford and Kingston - could you make that work? I wish you the best of luck getting on it though, I think buses will be very busy that day.

I'm going to try getting myself to Guildford from Leeds on Monday morning - I'm dreading it.

 

[cb a1]

if no trains are running on tuesday, I wonder how many people will be unable to get to work, 1000s, 10000s, millions?

According to the ONS Census results, trains were used by 1.4 million people to get to work in England and Wales in 2011.

I would speculate that not all of those will necessarily be full-time, some will be on holiday, some will take the day as a holiday, some will have a bus alternative, some may be able to say work from home or another office, many will have a car.

I think it's fair to say that the strike will make life more difficult for over 1 million commuters but my guess on the number of people who genuinely would be unable to get to work would be maybe 10% of that.

 

[bicbasher]

Southeastern are providing limited services on Metro routes (except Grove Park to Bromley North) and HS1.

http://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/your-journey/industrialaction/

We are able to run the following services -
Monday 25 May
From 9am to 7pm:

Gravesend – Victoria via Sidcup: 2 trains per hour
Dartford – Victoria via Bexleyheath: 2 trains per hour
Ashford – Victoria via Maidstone East: 2 trains per hour
Sevenoaks – Victoria via Orpington: 2 trains per hour
Orpington – Victoria via Herne Hill: 2 trains per hour
Gravesend – St Pancras: 2 trains per hour
Ashford – St Pancras: 2 trains per hour
(until 19.00, then St Pancras – Ebbsfleet to 22.30)

Tuesday 26 May
From 9am to 5pm:

Hayes – Cannon Street: 2 trains per hour
Dartford – Cannon Street via Sidcup: 2 trains per hour
Dartford – Cannon Street via Greenwich: 2 trains per hour
Dartford – Cannon Street via Bexleyheath: 1 train per hour
Dartford – Charing Cross via Bexleyheath: 2 trains per hour
Dartford – Charing Cross via Sidcup: 1 train per hour
Grove Park – Charing Cross: 2 trains per hour
Victoria – Bromley South: 4 trains per hour
St Pancras – Ebbsfleet: 4 trains per hour

 

[dvboy]

Well, it sounds feasible, as in London Midland's latest update it says that they will be unable to run any electric trains.



http://www.londonmidland.com/your-journey/journey-planning/industrialaction /

What diesel trains are able to run Wolverhampton-Coventry? Would this be class 170 Turbostars?

 

[CharlieSpotted]

What diesel trains are able to run Wolverhampton-Coventry? Would this be class 170 Turbostars?

I imagine so, yes. They're a relatively common sight around here anyway, as they're used on the Shrewsbury service.

 

[cb a1]

if no trains are running on tuesday, I wonder how many people will be unable to get to work, 1000s, 10000s, millions?

According to the ONS Census results, trains were used by 1.4 million people to get to work in England and Wales in 2011.

I would speculate that not all of those will necessarily be full-time, some will be on holiday, some will take the day as a holiday, some will have a bus alternative, some may be able to say work from home or another office, many will have a car.

I think it's fair to say that the strike will make life more difficult for over 1 million commuters but my guess on the number of people who genuinely would be unable to get to work would be maybe 10% of that.

 

[dvboy]

I imagine so, yes. They're a relatively common sight around here anyway, as they're used on the Shrewsbury service.

I was wondering about the other side of Birmingham!

 

[GodAtum]

I think there is a bus between Guildford and Kingston - could you make that work? I wish you the best of luck getting on it though, I think buses will be very busy that day.

I'm going to try getting myself to Guildford from Leeds on Monday morning - I'm dreading it.

Thanks, I found that I could get a X26 from East Croydon to Kingston, then a 515 to Guildford. Unfortuantely due to project deadlines, i have to make it to work By the time I get there and have to head back I'll only have a few hours of work.

 

[Pugwash]

Greater Anglia seem to have just given up.

No trains from 12pm on Monday till 6am on Wednesday.

Not sure why they are finishing service earlier than most other TOC's.

Any one have any idea why they are being so cautionate.

 

[First class]

Greater Anglia seem to have just given up.

No trains from 12pm on Monday till 6am on Wednesday.

Not sure why they are finishing service earlier than most other TOC's.

Any one have any idea why they are being so cautionate.

EMTs Anglian services finishes early at 11am too. EMT are only running 4 x Norwich-Ely shuttles on Monday (nothing on Tue), 0550, 0651, 0757, 0857, and then they all return back to Thetford and Norwich.

I suspect Romford ECO, Cambridge PSB, Colchester PSB and Trowse Bridge PSB are having staffing issues beyond midday, and need everything in Crown Point or the sidings before everyone books off.

There is also a lot of obstacle detection crossings on the Norwich-Ely route which can be unreliable at the best of times, and with no maintenance staff around, or crossing attendants, if they go wrong, they aren't going to be fixed.

Don't forget there is also an overtime ban running simultaneously to strike action, which will be causing further shortages of staff.

 

[bicbasher]

TSSA have suspended strike action, no word yet from the RMT.

 

[marks87]

TSSA have suspended strike action, no word yet from the RMT.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between the TSSA and RMT? That is, who is a member of which?

 

[philjo]

Great Northern have posted this info in the last few minutes:

http://www.thameslinkrailway.com/your-journey/strike-advice/gn-nr-strike

Sunday 24 May
The planned service will operate (with buses replacing trains between Letchworth Garden City and Royston all day)

Bank Holiday Monday 25 May: Significant disruption, please check before you travel

The planned bank holiday service will operate until late morning.
From late morning, there will be no trains between Royston, Cambridge and King's Lynn.
Services on all other Great Northern routes will finish by mid-afternoon. There may be significant alterations before this time.

A timetable will be published here as soon as it is available.

Tuesday 26 May: We advise you not to travel

If Great Northern is able run trains then the best they will be able to operate is a very reduced service from around 7.30am until last services mid-afternoon between these stations only:

London King’s Cross, Stevenage, Biggleswade, St Neots, Huntingdon, Peterborough
London King’s Cross, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth Garden City, Royston, Cambridge
London Kings Cross, Finsbury Park, Hadley Wood, Potters Bar, Brookmans Park, Welham Green, Hatfield, Welwyn Garden City
London King’s Cross, Finsbury Park, Enfield Chase, Gordon Hill, Crews Hill, Cuffley, Bayford, Hertford North, Watton-at-Stone, Stevenage, Hitchin, Letchworth Garden City.

A timetable will be published here as soon as it is available.

Please consult our main strike info page if you intend to travel on this date.

Wednesday 27 May: Significant disruption possible, please check before you travel
We intend to operate a full service; however significant disruption is possible if Network Rail are unable to allow us access to the network.

 

[A-driver]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between the TSSA and RMT? That is, who is a member of which?

In this dispute there will be a lot of crossovers who's in which union but generally RMT is more the 'worker' grades and TSSA the more managerial grades.

The RMT are the bigger party in this dispute and I'm not sure the TSSA involvement would make that much difference in this exact dispute. May ease the pressure a bit though if RMT carry on with the IA.

 

[Wivenswold]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between the TSSA and RMT? That is, who is a member of which?

Different unions focus on different skill sectors. TSSA (for whom I was once a Rep) looked after the interests of clerical staff on the railway. RMT and ASLEF cover signalling, permanent way and traincrew.

 

[marks87]

So I guess that if RMT stay out, some TSSA staff might be able to help with the existing plans (managers operating boxes) but not to any significant extent?

Here's hoping the RMT have been offered an acceptable deal as well.

--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

PA reporting that the RMT have also called off the strike.

 

[sarahj]

Form us in Southern land its the staff in the Electrical Control Room. If they go out that the power to third rail off. So managers can man the Three Bridges 'thing', but no power, and we only have a few diesels.

However, I've heard that they are Tessa, so if they are not striking, well....
But not 100% confirmed what union they are.

 

[WelshBluebird]

Out of curiosity, as someone who doesn't really understand a lot about staffing etc, how are services able to be run even while staff are on strike? Are ToC's counting on some signalers etc to still be working (either because they started their shift before the start of the strike or because they are breaking the strike) etc?